Son of terrorist holds severed head

[Infamous]

"Develop a country"? Mexico is a very developed country and doesn't need the help of the U.S to do that. Every country in the world has done things for it's own benefit, America is no different.

The drug issue is more complicated than that and America couldn't stop it if it tried. First off, it doesn't want to stop it because there's too much money in it, and because Mexico happens to border the U.S, it's the main supplier of drugs to it. If it was Guatemala bordering the U.S then they would do the same thing.

My point is, that we can't hold the west or anyone else responsible for what ISIS is doing, they are doing this on their own, regardless of where they learned the tactics to do it from.

They are clearly preaching a very literal ideology of Islam, and are backing it up with actions. Convert or die, is what they are doing and they are simply following the commands of their holy book and prophet.

The US is the big dog in the world... Were role models... Mexico may be developed but it's openly corrupt as f.uck... We held our nose up in the air for years and said we don't torture ppl, but Obama recently came out and said Yes we have tortured... My point is if you're the big dog/role model on top you're going to have little dogs mimicking your style and if your only interest is self interest you're going to have to take a little responsibility when your students take your teachings to an extreme

[Ruthless One]

Anyone who leaves their country to join the ISIS should be banned from ever coming back. Revoke their citizenship. Islam = #1 p4p most dangerous belief system in the world.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Many people tend to forget or choose to ignore those small facts to make their uneducated, idiotic points.

It is obviously Islam that is turning farmers, teachers and plumbers into suicide bombers, not the foreign force occupying their land, blowing up their homes and killing their family members all in the name of 'democracy'.

This is one of the biggest exaggerations of Muslim apologists. There is no doubt that America by it's foreign policy has created more violence in the region. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have done a lot to help that out.

What you cannot do is blame ALL of the violence on Americas foreign policy. All you need to do is check the history of Islam in the region and understand how it got into power.

Countries like Egypt, Syria and Iraq were much more diversified than they are now, and that's the spread of more conservative Islamic ideals.

When your end result is a world wide caliphate, it has nothing to do with America and it's foreign policy. Israel is a bigger issue and just recently the head of Hamas said that if Israel pulled out of the region completely, they still would not recognize it as a sovereign state.

When Muslims have been in charge, they have lived peacefully and made other ethnic and religious groups into Dims. When they have been the minority in power, they have never lived in peace and this goes for the 1400 year history if Islam.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

The US is the big dog in the world... Were role models... Mexico may be developed but it's openly corrupt as f.uck... We held our nose up in the air for years and said we don't torture ppl, but Obama recently came out and said Yes we have tortured... My point is if you're the big dog/role model on top you're going to have little dogs mimicking your style and if your only interest is self interest you're going to have to take a little responsibility when your students take your teachings to an extreme

I don't know what this has to do with ISIS and defending what they are doing.

[Infamous]

I don't know what this has to do with ISIS and defending what they are doing.

Right were completely off topic now, but we were talking about the Zetas and the US taking some responsibility for their actions... In your note above you said the US shouldn't be blamed for all the violence, but it is responsible for some... I can agree with that...

[Mooshashi]

To say ALL Muslims are like ISIS is kind of like saying all Christians are like this guy who eats Muslims' hearts:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Republic.html


No one is defending ISIS, but to say ALL Muslims are like ISIS is bigotry at it's worst.

You are correct ...not all Muslims are like ISIS. What you should have said is that all Muslims HAVE THE POTENTIAL to be like ISIS.

[2shameless]

To say ALL Muslims are like ISIS is kind of like saying all Christians are like this guy who eats Muslims' hearts:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Republic.html


No one is defending ISIS, but to say ALL Muslims are like ISIS is bigotry at it's worst.

Context. It matters.

in revenge for the murders of his pregnant wife, his sister-in-law and her baby

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3ADj8aIab

I suppose as a loyal Hamas supporter it's only natural that you would defend ISIS as well. Absolutely disgusting if you ask me.

[!! Shawn]

This is the issue that you and most Muslim apologists don't get though. Nobody in their right mind would defend beheading of any kind. Whether it was done by ISIS, some drug cartel in Mexico or some random crazy person in a Canadian bus.

The issue people are having is that when you attach a theological ideology to it, it makes it much different. See, most people think that Bin Laden was crazy, or that he was some sociopath, he wasn't. He was just a good Muslim.

If I read a book that tells me "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out." A book that has 109 verses that are direct commands of violence, and I'm not even counting the Hadiths. Which are even more severe commands to kill, maim and behead people.

We have enough problems in the world, we don't need some other ideology to turn normal, good people, into savages because it's commanded by their god.

One of the biggest problems we have is that people label them all as muslims. That is fairly ignorant of the major divisions of thinking that exist within the islamic world. Most of the extremists follow a branch of Wahabi / Salafi islam. The problem being that this particular branch of islam preaches that non-wahhabi muslims are apostates and should be killed.

The wahhabi / salafist muslims are the problem and are the bulk of the terrorist.

[ßringer]

You are correct ...not all Muslims are like ISIS. What you should have said is that all Muslims HAVE THE POTENTIAL to be like ISIS.

What a shockingly bigoted post.

Would you also say that all Christians "HAVE THE POTENTIAL" to become another Timothy McVeigh? Or that all human beings in general "HAVE THE POTENTIAL" to become another Jeffrey Dahmer?

I highly doubt it.

[takingaim]

What a shockingly bigoted post.

Would you also say that all Christians "HAVE THE POTENTIAL" to become another Timothy McVeigh? Or that all human beings in general "HAVE THE POTENTIAL" to become another Jeffrey Dahmer?

I highly doubt it.

Timothy McVeigh was not motivated by Christianity. In prison, he stated that science was his religion. Above all else, he was a NWO conspiracy theorist type who believed the USA would eventually become a socialistic tyrannical prison state.

Islam creates extremists (Islam IS extreme), but what people seem to get caught up in is the idea that an extremist has to be violent. They don't. As far as I'm concerned, if you believe that non-Muslims should have to pay the 'Jizya' (non-Muslim tax) in an Islamic state, apostates should be killed, women should be treated less than men, you're an extremist. And these are normal views amongst Muslims. It's certainly not a tiny minority who feel this way.