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  • #21
    Originally posted by Earl-Hickey View Post
    exactly, i dont see how being able to bench 3X your bodyweight 5 times is transferrable to the boxing ring.
    That would mean absolutely inhuman explosive strength. That would transfer a lot into a boxing ring.

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    • #22
      The only thing I'll say is that I've gotten good results by switching between "programs" on a roughly 6-8week cycle. Been walking at 155lbs for a long time now. If you don't want to gain mass you're not going to gain strength as quickly and easily as someone who does. That's just the reality of it. But I can tell you that for a while now mine has been slowly increasing despite maintaining a constant bodyweight.

      About the stiffness- strech... and don't forget your actually boxing training. Of course you'll feel stiff if all you did last month was hang around the weightroom. To help with that I loosen up on the speedbag at the end of every weight workout and strech "hard" every night.

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      • #23
        Thanks for all the help guys, I'll b trying out heavy weights low reps for 4 weeks (started last night) and will then try low weights high reps and see what difference I feel, I'll also b watching my calories and start stretching more..watch this space in a month or so...
        Gdluck training wit ur goals

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        • #24
          Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
          Don't listen to the #2 poster.
          Higher weights and less reps is what you do to build bulk muscle mass.
          Wrong

          What you want to do is increase reps and lower the weight amount. This is done to define and develop lean muscle. And I'm talking about low weights around 5,10,15 pounds, with high reps 12-15 done rapidly.
          Wrong Again.

          You people look too deep into rep ranges. Rep Ranges are SOOOOOO overrated it's not even funny.

          But if you want to talk about rep ranges and what's typical....

          1-5 Reps- Strength
          6-12 Reps- Hypertrophy
          12-15+ - Endurance

          But this isn't universal because nobody responds to same way.

          Bottom line if you want to get stronger, you need to move around some serious weight. Period.

          Do compound lifts and Olympic lifts.

          If you are a boxer, I'd go with Olympic Lifts

          Lifting alone is not going to make you "bulky" or "toned" how big or how lean you are depends on your diet and cardiovascular exercise in conjunction with your training program. The more you eat, the bigger you will get, the less and cleaner you eat the more "ripped" you will be.

          Doing a ridiculous amount of reps with 10lbs is not going to make your muscles lean.

          To avoid becoming stiff, you also need to stretch.




          Calisthenics is probably the route you want to go through for what you're trying to accomplish. You'll get strong and most of it will be lean muscle.
          Please don't give out anymore advice.

          Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
          Bullcrap. There are 105 pound Chinese guys who can lift twice as much weight as big old bodybuilder types.
          Bodybuilders don't train for strength, so that's really a moot point.
          Last edited by Jack3d; 10-02-2010, 04:37 PM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by SwoleBiceps View Post
            Wrong



            Wrong Again.

            You people look too deep into rep ranges. Rep Ranges are SOOOOOO overrated it's not even funny.

            But if you want to talk about rep ranges and what's typical....

            1-5 Reps- Strength
            6-12 Reps- Hypertrophy
            12-15+ - Endurance

            But this isn't universal because nobody responds to same way.

            Bottom line if you want to get stronger, you need to move around some serious weight. Period.

            Do compound lifts and Olympic lifts.

            Lifting alone is not going to make you "bulky" or "toned" how big or how lean you are depends on your diet and cardiovascular exercise in conjunction with your training program. The more you eat, the bigger you will get, the less and cleaner you eat the more "ripped" you will be.

            Doing a ridiculous amount of reps with 10lbs is not going to make your muscles lean.

            To avoid becoming stiff, you also need to stretch.






            Please don't give out anymore advice.



            Bodybuilders don't train for strength, so that's really a moot point.
            nice points there thanks alot bro!

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            • #26
              Are you trying to increase your strength for boxing or just in general?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Clegg View Post
                Are you trying to increase your strength for boxing or just in general?
                both really, ofcourse I want to increase punching power and generally the core for balance etc, but i do a little MMA too so want all round strength for grappling/wrestling etc and just for good health.
                These lot have been great and I will be switching up my diet and routine to test things, anything else you know? thanks

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by J.Dempsey View Post
                  I've started added weightlifting to my training for strength, but have noticed that ive started to bulk up and tbh I dont like the feeling, I feeling a little stiffer and slower.

                  Any of you guys know how to build strength without the bulk, I've read a little but have no experience or know anyone that stays lean and weight trains, any ideas?

                  Cheers
                  that will go away just take a week off the weights before a fight. It's Mostly the blood and muscle tear giving you that feeling. To much muscle though, will sap your stamina and hinder your speed depending on your frame size. Muscle eats oxygen.

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                  • #29
                    I am still not sure how you will become stiff from squats and deadlifts. Squat was the single most important tool in achieving healthy and flexible hamstrings(Mind you I never squatted more then 255 pounds X 7 ). What is a general rule of a thumb in training is that your weakest muscle is also usually your least flexible muscle as well.
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                    Ofcourse, if you are gonna spend all your night on curles, you are going to be quite stiff, but that would just be dumb for boxing.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by SwoleBiceps View Post

                      Bodybuilders don't train for strength, so that's really a moot point.
                      Brookland Bomber stated that a person NEEDS size to gain strength, which is simply not true.

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