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  • #41
    what i think is hard, is keeping your flexibility and agility when doing weights, you get stiff with the focused workouts. or so thats my experience. no more snap with your punches, slower reflexes and less endurance with bigger muscles, wanting more blood. i think if i will ever do weights, it'll focus on supersets and variation.

    but i understand what you want to do. let me know how it works out bro.

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    • #42
      Lots of cardio, a good diet, and body weight exercises. Pushups, situps, dumbell exercises with 12-15 reps or more, you'll get stronger but it is more for endurance than size. Pullups at different grip distances apart, like 4 different types of pushups (triangle, military, wide, shoulder width)....just do 40 yard sprints as fast as you can....sets of 10 to 20 for your legs...they will kill you for a couple days afterwards so start with 10 and see how that feels.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by J.Dempsey View Post
        both really, ofcourse I want to increase punching power and generally the core for balance etc, but i do a little MMA too so want all round strength for grappling/wrestling etc and just for good health.
        These lot have been great and I will be switching up my diet and routine to test things, anything else you know? thanks
        I have never lifted weight at the same time (period of my life) as doing boxing or BJJ, so I'm not sure what a good routine would be. I'd be worried about my muscle being sore from one thing when trying to do the other really. But I will say that with both boxing and BJJ I lost weight and so if it's the same for you then perhaps if you try something like 3(or more) boxing/MMA sessions per week and only 1 weight lifting session? But that would mean doing all the major muscle groups on the same day, which would probably take it out of you quite a bit, especially if lifting heavy. If I pushed myself as hard as possible doing squats, then I don't think I'd be able to then push myself very hard doing bench and deadlift straight after.

        I remember there was a poster on here before, I think his username was ...David..., and he was a bodybuilder who shed a lot of weight to become a boxer, and said that he managed to maintain a lot of his strength in doing so.

        Not sure what happened to that guy though as how much muscle+strength he ended up losing in the end, I'll try and look for one of his threads in a minute...

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        • #44
          NOOOOOOO your all wrong.

          Just do your month with heavy weights and your month with light weights and see what you like best.

          and when you start doing light weights high reps do like 2-4 lbs weights with 30+ reps you dont really have to do much of any exercises. just a few light ones for the shoulders triceps forearms with some light weighted shadow boxing and some weighted core twists.

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          • #45
            Bulking is dependent on diet. Eat at surplus calories and you'll put on muscle.

            Strength training requires lower reps with heavy weights.

            Check out 5x5 or 3x5 training. You'll be surprised at how strong you can get. You could even try 3x3.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Darkstranger View Post
              Bulking is dependent on diet. Eat at surplus calories and you'll put on muscle.

              Strength training requires lower reps with heavy weights.

              Check out 5x5 or 3x5 training. You'll be surprised at how strong you can get. You could even try 3x3.
              weigh lifting is pushing boxing is impacting.

              stop weight lifiting and spend that time boxing and youd be amazed at how much better you are.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Post
                weigh lifting is pushing boxing is impacting.

                stop weight lifiting and spend that time boxing and youd be amazed at how much better you are.

                He's asking about strength, not boxing skills. If you're smart you can fit strength training in your boxing schedule.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Darkstranger View Post
                  He's asking about strength, not boxing skills. If you're smart you can fit strength training in your boxing schedule.
                  not really. your stressing muscles. have you ever gone to the gym for n hour then went to the boxing gym for 3 hours? while i know plenty of people that can go for an hour jog then go to the boxing gym for 3 hours.

                  I bet most people couldnt even go to a boxing gym for an hour after weight lifitng for an hour and if they do you can bet they wont be back the next day.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Post
                    weigh lifting is pushing boxing is impacting.

                    stop weight lifiting and spend that time boxing and youd be amazed at how much better you are.
                    Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Post
                    not really. your stressing muscles. have you ever gone to the gym for n hour then went to the boxing gym for 3 hours? while i know plenty of people that can go for an hour jog then go to the boxing gym for 3 hours.

                    I bet most people couldnt even go to a boxing gym for an hour after weight lifitng for an hour and if they do you can bet they wont be back the next day.
                    When you start strength training you start off light, and build up over a number of weeks and months. Your body will adapt and you'll get through your sessions if your nutrition's adequate.

                    Also when you train for strength, you won't be lifting to failure. Which makes a big difference. Training to failure is a bodybuilding thing and would most certainly make a big a impact on your boxing sessions.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Darkstranger View Post
                      When you start strength training you start off light, and build up over a number of weeks and months. Your body will adapt and you'll get through your sessions if your nutrition's adequate.

                      Also when you train for strength, you won't be lifting to failure. Which makes a big difference. Training to failure is a bodybuilding thing and would most certainly make a big a impact on your boxing sessions.
                      you should be lifting weights in comparison to your 1 rep max if you do lift weights and doing 3*5 sets it should be around 70-80% 1 rep max. ive never heard bout this starting off light and building up thing. sure what your lifting when you start and what you lift 3 months later is going to be alot diffrent but they should both be about 70-80% your 1 rep max, and 80-90% if your doing 3*3.

                      and 70-90% your 1 rep max dosnt seem like the kind of thing that isnt going to be putting stress on your muscles.

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