Roy Jones's prime competition... exactly how good was it?

[GEOFFHAYES]

It's quite obvious that your insecure and jealous about what we had with Benn and Eubank, and that you have nothing to compare in North America, or you wouldn't use any possible opportunity to hate on them. It's hilarious.

Get over it.

[Smokin']

Jones fought nobody apart from a bunch of washed-up guys, Hopkins fought nobody apart from a couple of blown-up welterweights.

Toney fought and beat Michael Nunn, Reggie Johnson and Mike McCallum in their primes, and his performance against Iran Barkley showed a level of skill that far exceeds anything I've ever seen from Hopkins or Jones. He's also been in with and whooped the asses of Doug DeWitt, Prince Charles Williams and Vassiliy Jirov, and schooled undefeated prospects like Merqui Sosa and Tim Littles who were never the same after losing to Toney.

I though Toney was the pound-for-pound best in boxing, but he ate himself out of the fight with Jones - he beat himself more than Jones beat him. You saw the best of Roy Jones against James Toney, but you saw the worst of James Toney. Why do you think that Jones never gave him a rematch?

Toney, when he was 'on', was the smoothest of counter-punchers, the slickest of infighters.. and he has the best resume in boxing by miles.

Yeah, Toney was sure 'weight drained' in his fight with Jones Jr. It's pretty odd how he was in great shape a few months earlier against Williams, but I guess you lose all your stamina in 2 short months, don't you?

Talking about being weight drained what about Iran Barkley coming down from 178 in his previous bout to fight Toney. How come no one talks about that? Toney was also getting his ass kicked by Nunn then he lands a lucky punch, and now he is this throwback, old school fighter. The fat little **** couldn't even handle little Montell Griffin and had troubles with McAllum who was way past his prime. He lost to HOFER Tiberi and was smacked around by Reggie Johnson.

He then beat a robotic Jirov and an out of prime, injured Evander Holyfield and the dudes considered a throwback. I'm not convinced.

[Bozo_no no]

It's quite obvious that your insecure and jealous about what we had with Benn and Eubank, and that you have nothing to compare in North America, or you wouldn't use any possible opportunity to hate on them. It's hilarious.

Get over it.

This is funny, because it's exactly what you're doing, with the fighter names and our names reveresed.

How many Benn or Eubank threads have I ever made?

Can you point out the last negative thing I said about either of them?

I've pointed out Jones is the better fighter, and it's quite obvious you view that as hatefull, which only undelines my point.

[Bozo_no no]

Yeah, Toney was sure 'weight drained' in his fight with Jones Jr. It's pretty odd how he was in great shape a few months earlier against Williams, but I guess you lose all your stamina in 2 short months, don't you?

Talking about being weight drained what about Iran Barkley coming down from 178 in his previous bout to fight Toney. How come no one talks about that? Toney was also getting his ass kicked by Nunn then he lands a lucky punch, and now he is this throwback, old school fighter. The fat little **** couldn't even handle little Montell Griffin and had troubles with McAllum who was way past his prime. He lost to HOFER Tiberi and was smacked around by Reggie Johnson.

He then beat a robotic Jirov and an out of prime, injured Evander Holyfield and the dudes considered a throwback. I'm not convinced.

Then why are you afraid of starting a new thread with this line of thinking and throw it open for discussion.

Add a poll.

Lets see how many people agree with this in depth take of yours.

[GEOFFHAYES]

None of that changes the fact Jones is the better fighter, and will go down in boxing history as such.

You're only underlining your motives for hating on Jones with posts like this.

"Yes, Jones may be great, but Eubank is a hero to me and audiences over here. Benn fights make me feel excited".

Good for you. They're great fighters.

But they're not Roy Jones.

Why do you keep doing this dude? Why are you insecure about this?

You won't find anybody on the planet who thinks Benn and Eubank will be going down as better fighters than Roy Jones. Hell, nobody had more controversial decisions than Eubank and he was largely seen as garbage, not even world-class. Don't you remember??

[Smokin']

Then why are you afraid of starting a new thread with this line of thinking and throw it open for discussion.

Add a poll.

Lets see how many people agree with this in depth take of yours.

I don't give a **** if I'm in the minority in anything. It's only idiots like you that think Toney is some sort of super human god. Case in point: He's inconsistent and not in my top 10 in any division. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it

By the way, you know nothing about boxing.

Later.

[Easy-E]

Yeah, Toney was sure 'weight drained' in his fight with Jones Jr. It's pretty odd how he was in great shape a few months earlier against Williams, but I guess you lose all your stamina in 2 short months, don't you?

Talking about being weight drained what about Iran Barkley coming down from 178 in his previous bout to fight Toney. How come no one talks about that? Toney was also getting his ass kicked by Nunn then he lands a lucky punch, and now he is this throwback, old school fighter. The fat little **** couldn't even handle little Montell Griffin and had troubles with McAllum who was way past his prime. He lost to HOFER Tiberi and was smacked around by Reggie Johnson.

He then beat a robotic Jirov and an out of prime, injured Evander Holyfield and the dudes considered a throwback. I'm not convinced.

Toney wasnt that weight drained for the Jones fight.
He wasnt in tip top shape, but either way Jones beats Toney 99 times out of 100.

[Bozo_no no]

Why do you keep doing this dude? Why are you insecure about this?

You won't find anybody on the planet who thinks Benn and Eubank will be going down as better fighters than Roy Jones. Hell, nobody had more controversial decisions than Eubank and he was largely seen as garbage, not even world-class. Don't you remember??

I'm not insecure about anything.

You're the one who needs to bash on Jones because he gets more credit and acclaim in the boxing world than Benn and Eubank.

I don't see how it gets anymore simple than that.

I think they're both great fighters, and I'm glad you like them and that they make your world more exciting.

It doesn't justify al the time and effort you've spent cutting down Jones though.

[GEOFFHAYES]

With all due respect to Jones, the guy was not Chris Eubank. As much as he wanted to be like Eubank (and he did, for those of us who followed boxing back then), he failed miserably.

[Bozo_no no]

I don't give a **** if I'm in the minority in anything. It's only idiots like you that think Toney is some sort of super human god. Case in point: He's inconsistent and not in my top 10 in any division. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it

By the way, you know nothing about boxing.

Later.

The little 17 year old who doesn't think James Toney is a great fighter thinks I know nothing about boxing.

Ohhhhhh.

Make a thread about it Junior.

Why keep going on about if off topic in here? Maybe because less people will see it and laugh?