Better legacy Trinidad or De La Hoya??

[Chups]

Dela-Hoya.....

[Soldier01]

******mon, your nose is so far up De La Hoya's ass I bet you have to wipe the **** from behind your ears every time he comes to a sudden stop.

[donchicho21]

See Raymon you are not even reading what is written, selective quoting i guess. I also believe DLH would have beat Vargas regardless of what Tito did. But to deny that there was an effect I think is the dumb move. But like others have mentioned, you are so far up DLH's ass that these arguments go right through your ears.

This "nut-hugging" is the major reason that boxing is hardly properly analyzed. And this goes for just about every fighter, but is especially pronounced on the Tito-DLH debates because both sets of fans are so die-hard.

[Guest]

Give DLH his props for the Vargas win. He beat a roided up Fernando. lol

I have to admit Tito ruined him almost as bad he ruined David Reid...

[jai mari078]

I will not get into who had the better legacy because at this point it just opinions but, I will definitely disagree with you on the fact that you say Vargas was the same after tito. NO WAY! Vargas wasn't the same after Tito and plenty of folks who knew the way Fernando fought can tell you that.

You can immediately tell the kind of fighter he was after the tito fight when Vargas stepped into the ring with Wilfredo Vargas & was knocked down by a punch that before the tito fight wouldn't have brought him down. For the record I'm one of the biggest "Feroz" supporters around.

The reason that Vargas changed his style and the way that he fought was because of his spinal injury. He never got it fixed, just tried rehabbing it. He couldn't move anymore, had absolutely no head movement and it slowed him down. He tried changing hisss tyle to protect himself not because if what Trinidad did. When he fought Oscar he was the same coome straight forward with pressure and try to out muscle and overpower Oscar, which worked until Oscar made the adjustments and outboxed him. That is where Oscar an Tito differ Oscar can adjust and beat you many ways. If Tito doesn't knock you out he has no answers for that and if you can move and box he is lost, as he showed against Oscar,B-Hop, and Winky.

[vB Martin]

If Tito doesn't knock you out he has no answers for that and if you can move and box he is lost, as he showed against Oscar,B-Hop, and Winky.

Yet he beat Sweetpea convincingly whereas De La Hoya's win is considered controversial. How many boxers in history have been able to move and box well as Sweetpea? It's a very short list.

[xcaret]

Yet he beat Sweetpea convincingly whereas De La Hoya's win is considered controversial. How many boxers in history have been able to move and box well as Sweetpea? It's a very short list.

Tito without power is nothing....

[raymon123]

Yet he beat Sweetpea convincingly whereas De La Hoya's win is considered controversial. How many boxers in history have been able to move and box well as Sweetpea? It's a very short list.

Funny, whittaker thought he beat tito lol. Tito beat a much older shot whittaker.

[raymon123]

Funny, whittaker thought he beat tito lol. Tito beat a much older shot whittaker.

And also tito beat whittaker that didn't have a win yet after oscar beat him first. So that's ok? And tell me something martin, howcome tito vs whittaker wasn't on ppv huh? lol.

[jai mari078]

Yet he beat Sweetpea convincingly whereas De La Hoya's win is considered controversial. How many boxers in history have been able to move and box well as Sweetpea? It's a very short list.

DLH win was not contrversial. It was a close fight where Whittaker dod nothing but run and clown the whole fight. It was close fight that Oscar won. He won an ugly fight, but you are never gonna lok great against Whittaker.