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  • blowblow
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    #91
    Originally posted by War Room
    OK, let's not rage now, use paragraphs instead of walls of text. This is very difficult to read. If we're going to have a decent discussion, you got to meet me halfway here ok?
    -sure i'll write it in paragraph. but let me answer this first one by one.

    I'm sure he took it seriously, just when you're at the end of your prime as a boxer things like losing weight aren't as easy as they were when you were younger. These are facts of science and life. Floyd is a gym rat, training at like 2am like a boxing junky. Let's keep it real please and stick to what we know.

    - floyd is well-knowned as a professional boxer, a gym rat or etc. so it's easy for him to make the weight. if he really kept a few lbs as his advantage then i can say he was not a disciplined boxer after all.

    Marquez was never a fast puncher, have you seen him fighter before lol? Marquez was a great counter puncher and had other champion qualities like being able to shift gears and make big adjustments mid fight.

    -yeah you've said it right marquez was a slow puncher and putting up more weights means he's gotten slow more than he was.

    Floyd would always be the bigger guy, he was a natural 130 pounder, Marquez was a natural 125 pounder maybe debut'd at 120. Floyd moved up in weight quicker than Marquez did. Floyd is taller with longer reach. No matter how you cut it, Floyd was always bigger.

    -that's why it was more of his advantage even if he agreed to the catchweight he still left some lbs to him to avoid inconvenience to his body. easy to pay than to lose the precious 0

    I don't think a 135 pounder moving up to 147 is ever a good idea, but the catch weight made it more of a fair fight. This fight was obviously a soft touch for Floyd coming out of a two year retirement. You don't fight the best in your division after taking two years off. It's not a smart move.

    -he proclaimed that he was the best ever so everyone believes that 2 years retirement isn't a big factor. he was still training his body for sure during that time frame.

    Hardly the hallmark of trying to get the upperhand your entire career like you're trying to prove though. The facts just aren't there.

    Look man, I love Marauez I'm a huge fan but the facts are his was 3rd fiddle to the greats in his natural class during his time.

    He avoided MAB and Morales like the plague, why? Because they would have stomped his a$$ into retirement.

    Look, I see your sig with the gifs and stuff. You're a Floyd hater and whatever I say isn't going to make you take those gifs down and make you a more reasonable person.

    -i just put it there to show people saying pac cannot penetrate and hit floyd. and showing how he run is the real scenario that night. i know you knew it back then so i gotta show this to the floyd fans.
    i'm impressed with floyd tbh but not after he starts to cherrypick his opponents.




    But I'm telling you, hating on Floyd's career and skills makes you look ******.

    -the skills is there but never proved to me after fighting such a cherrypicked opponents.. if he was fighting the pime opponents then i never talksht about him just like people discrediting pac.
    Last edited by blowblow; 02-11-2021, 03:41 PM.

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    • Rockin'
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      #92
      Originally posted by War Room
      Let's call it what it is, Floyd was past his prime when he fought Manny. Being pro for 19 years is like 4-5 years past a fighters prime, it's just the facts. His hands were a lot weaker and his style was completely changed from when he was PBF. PBF would have stopped Manny just like he did Corrales.

      Floyd would have always beaten Mosely and Oscar.

      Go back and watch early Shane, he was good, but he got worse when he started hitting the juice. Obviously on juice against Wilfredo Rivera and Floyd would have definitely beaten Shane before that. Shane was picking shots and setting you up for the big one. He could NEVER pull that off against Floyd.

      Oscar would have the better chance, but Oscar fought Floyd with the same ferocity at 154. Punches and bunches that simply missed, Floyd's defense is probably TBE. Hard to get going when you're missing. I don't want to hear no shet about the jab either, Floyd got in his head and Oscar wanted blood. This would have always happened. Oscar has said never got in a street fight, he couldn't handle the psi-ops Floyd put him through.



      Manny is the catchweight king. Google Manny Pacquiao Catchweight King and look at the hits by every single outlet out.

      Manny made them shrink and got them when they had miserable and devastating losses. Floyd didn't do that and the history books will remember it.

      Marquez practically killed Manny and Juan couldn't land a glove on Floyd. I thought Manny died in the ring when Marquez stopped him. Ever see someone get shot in the head? It looks exactly like that knockout, it's like your cord gets pulled out of the wall.



      ****in'...........
      (B)arRoom, that's your best? Then you quit when you got exposed for saying something you forgot you said? I give more respect to a cumguzzling whore with a prolapsed anus than a yella bellied coward like you.

      You know what? Maybe I'm being to strong here and you just need someone to talk to. 800.272.3900 is available around the clock, 365 days a year. Specialists and master’s-level clinicians offer confidential support and information to people living with dementia. Give them a call man, what can it hurt?
      Yeah, Whoreroom seems to fit you better.

      Goshdarnnit, now you've hurt my feelings. How do you know a cumguzzling whore with a prolapsed anus. I've never met one, nor would I care to. You must live in an extremely nice area to be knowing, doing business, with such people.

      In my face you would be quiet as a mouse. But on the internet you puff up your chest and attack. A broken nose solves that really quick. Puuuussssssyyy!

      Floyd played the game, fought who he should have and came out smelling like roses. Is that what your mind wants to hear?

      Floyd was great.......Rockin'
      Last edited by Rockin'; 02-11-2021, 03:46 PM.

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      • War Room
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        #93
        Originally posted by Rockin'
        Yeah, Whoreroom seems to fit you better.

        Goshdarnnit, now you've hurt my feelings. How do you know a cumguzzling whore with a prolapsed anus. I've never met one, nor would I care to. You must live in an extremely nice area to be knowing, doing business, with such people.

        In my face you would be quiet as a mouse. But on the internet you puff up your chest and attack. A broken nose solves that really quick. Puuuussssssyyy! .......Rockin'
        WhoreRoom, there we go CrackRockin...........you getting better now. But actually, whoreroom is kind of like a compliment right? You're not that good at this. Keep trying though!

        ****Rockin...........don't start threating me with a good time now. Broken nose, you think you're pretty tough I see! When was the last time you punched something other than a **** with your face?

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          #94
          Originally posted by Rockin'
          And who the funk are you? .............Rockin'
          Someone that will prove you wrong very easy thats why you play hide and seek I get it.

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            #95
            Originally posted by War Room
            WhoreRoom, there we go CrackRockin...........you getting better now. But actually, whoreroom is kind of like a compliment right? You're not that good at this. Keep trying though!

            ****Rockin...........don't start threating me with a good time now. Broken nose, you think you're pretty tough I see! When was the last time you punched something other than a **** with your face?
            You are simply a know nothin' with top many opinions, opinions that you heard from the other know nothings on here. Are you a Parakeet, a man or just another know nothing puffing out his chest? I know which one you are.......Rockin'
            Last edited by Rockin'; 02-11-2021, 04:12 PM.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Roadblock
              Someone that will prove you wrong very easy thats why you play hide and seek I get it.
              Wrong about what? .....Rockin'

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                #97
                Originally posted by djtmal
                Lets call it what it is. Floyd outpointed a past prime Manny who had previously been ko'd, in unspectacular fashion. The fight was inconclusive at best with Floyd clinching for 12 rounds. The fight was a big letdown given the buildup.

                You could say Floyd would always best Hatton, Corrales, and Canelo because he beat those guys in their prime, but not those guys he fought past their prime.
                You mean a past prime Floyd 1 fight away from retirement beat Manny 4 yrs before Thurman .

                The fight was a UD thats conclusive one judge gave Floyd 10 rnds and 8 rounds by the other 2, thats a clear win.

                Floyd beats Manny any time from 130 to 154, the lower weights Floyd stops him.

                The let down in the big fight was Manny because he couldnt do anything he was lost at sea, Floyd was the same defensive wizard he always was.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by War Room
                  Let's call it what it is, Floyd was past his prime when he fought Manny. Being pro for 19 years is like 4-5 years past a fighters prime, it's just the facts. His hands were a lot weaker and his style was completely changed from when he was PBF. PBF would have stopped Manny just like he did Corrales.
                  So if Floyd was past his prime, and Manny was more shopworn and had previously been knocked out, how much credit can you lend to that. If it was a overmarinated, big payday for both guys let it be that, but a fight to determine who is the better fighter no both guys need to be prime for that.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Rockin'
                    Wrong about what? .....Rockin'
                    Only while you throw stones from glass houses.

                    The question is still there unanswered by you stay in that house boy its safer .

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                    • blowblow
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Roadblock
                      You mean a past prime Floyd 1 fight away from retirement beat Manny 4 yrs before Thurman .

                      The fight was a UD thats conclusive one judge gave Floyd 10 rnds and 8 rounds by the other 2, thats a clear win.

                      Floyd beats Manny any time from 130 to 154, the lower weights Floyd stops him.

                      The let down in the big fight was Manny because he couldnt do anything he was lost at sea, Floyd was the same defensive wizard he always was.
                      floyd was also a defensive wizard by avoiding, cherrypicking and ducking prime fighters.. went on vacation and just came back after the division has no longer a big threats.

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