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  • MUNG
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    #81
    i mean the guy was super great, all that money he gave to the bookies, they must really love the guy

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    • Rockin'
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      #82
      I'm done with the (B)arRoom bullsheet. Go find somebody else with experience to sheet on. Oh, wait.............Rockin'

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        #83
        Originally posted by Roadblock
        Answer the question I put to you and will see who avoided who .
        And who the funk are you? .............Rockin'

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          #84
          Originally posted by djtmal
          Lets call it what it is. Floyd outpointed a past prime Manny who had previously been ko'd, in unspectacular fashion. The fight was inconclusive at best with Floyd clinching for 12 rounds. The fight was a big letdown given the buildup.

          You could say Floyd would always best Hatton, Corrales, and Canelo because he beat those guys in their prime, but not those guys he fought past their prime.
          Let's call it what it is, Floyd was past his prime when he fought Manny. Being pro for 19 years is like 4-5 years past a fighters prime, it's just the facts. His hands were a lot weaker and his style was completely changed from when he was PBF. PBF would have stopped Manny just like he did Corrales.

          Floyd would have always beaten Mosely and Oscar.

          Go back and watch early Shane, he was good, but he got worse when he started hitting the juice. Obviously on juice against Wilfredo Rivera and Floyd would have definitely beaten Shane before that. Shane was picking shots and setting you up for the big one. He could NEVER pull that off against Floyd.

          Oscar would have the better chance, but Oscar fought Floyd with the same ferocity at 154. Punches and bunches that simply missed, Floyd's defense is probably TBE. Hard to get going when you're missing. I don't want to hear no shet about the jab either, Floyd got in his head and Oscar wanted blood. This would have always happened. Oscar has said never got in a street fight, he couldn't handle the psi-ops Floyd put him through.

          Originally posted by blowblow
          you can read right? see how manny surpassed all floyd's record by a wide margin. just because the 7 loses you have disregarded the rest? even with that lost floyd won't go near pac's achievement.
          Manny is the catchweight king. Google Manny Pacquiao Catchweight King and look at the hits by every single outlet out.

          Manny made them shrink and got them when they had miserable and devastating losses. Floyd didn't do that and the history books will remember it.

          Marquez practically killed Manny and Juan couldn't land a glove on Floyd. I thought Manny died in the ring when Marquez stopped him. Ever see someone get shot in the head? It looks exactly like that knockout, it's like your cord gets pulled out of the wall.

          Originally posted by Rockin'
          I'm done with the (B)arRoom bullsheet. Go find somebody else with experience to sheet on. Oh, wait.............Rockin'
          ****in'...........
          (B)arRoom, that's your best? Then you quit when you got exposed for saying something you forgot you said? I give more respect to a cumguzzling whore with a prolapsed anus than a yella bellied coward like you.

          You know what? Maybe I'm being to strong here and you just need someone to talk to. 800.272.3900 is available around the clock, 365 days a year. Specialists and master’s-level clinicians offer confidential support and information to people living with dementia. Give them a call man, what can it hurt?

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            #85
            Originally posted by War Room

            Manny is the catchweight king. Google Manny Pacquiao Catchweight King and look at the hits by every single outlet out.

            Manny made them shrink and got them when they had miserable and devastating losses. Floyd didn't do that and the history books will remember it.

            Marquez practically killed Manny and Juan couldn't land a glove on Floyd. I thought Manny died in the ring when Marquez stopped him. Ever see someone get shot in the head? It looks exactly like that knockout, it's like your cord gets pulled out of the wall.
            hey man why you always bringing up the triangle theory here? it doesn't work in boxing. so floyd vs JMM is not a catchweight? he was 2lbs above the weight limit so he can bully JMM he just paid the penalty easy.

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              #86
              Originally posted by blowblow
              hey man why you always bringing up the triangle theory here? it doesn't work in boxing. so floyd vs JMM is not a catchweight? he was 2lbs above the weight limit so he can bully JMM he just paid the penalty easy.
              He was retired and Marquez was a comeback fight after two years out lmao. The one time in his career he was over weight you people make it sound like it was standard operating procedure. Floyd was 99.99999% under weight.

              Floyd would beat the dogshet out of Marquez 100 times out of 100 at any weight. Marquez is too slow and could never handle Floyd. There is a reason why Marquez didn't fight MAB and Morales when they were in their prime.

              Floyd vs Marquez at 135 in their primes, Floyd 118-110 all day everyday.

              That catchweight was to benefit Marquez you halfwit.

              Weighing two pounds over doesn't make you slip punches better either. You people are too slow up in here. Easy work lmao!

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                #87
                Originally posted by War Room
                He was retired and Marquez was a comeback fight after two years out lmao. The one time in his career he was over weight you people make it sound like it was standard operating procedure. Floyd was 99.99999% under weight.

                Floyd would beat the dogshet out of Marquez 100 times out of 100 at any weight. Marquez is too slow and could never handle Floyd. There is a reason why Marquez didn't fight MAB and Morales when they were in their prime.

                Floyd vs Marquez at 135 in their primes, Floyd 118-110 all day everyday.

                That catchweight was to benefit Marquez you halfwit.

                Weighing two pounds over doesn't make you slip punches better either. You people are too slow up in here. Easy work lmao!
                the question is did floyd follow the catchweight? ofcourse not.. he always wanted the upperhand.. weight bully is real.. hahaha marquez benefited the catchweight? what's your excuses about this? let me hear.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by blowblow
                  the question is did floyd follow the catchweight? ofcourse not.. he always wanted the upperhand.. weight bully is real.. hahaha marquez benefited the catchweight? what's your excuses about this? let me hear.
                  Are you ok kid? I don't use excuses, I use facts.

                  Floyd never looked for the upper hand, where you getting this from? Bigger gloves because his hands got brittle over the years? Vegas becuse it's the Mecca of boxing?

                  The catchweight was put in place for Juans benefit. Juan had never fought over 135 so they put a catchweight in place so the weights would be on more of a playing field so Marquez didn't have to literally jump up two weight classes. Kid, google it.

                  The point of the spear is Floyd was retired for two years, came back and was off two pounds for the first time in 13 years as a professional. Is it really unreasonable to expect something like that from a 32 year old fighter on a two year lay off? No.

                  Being bigger makes you slower, Floyd style would suffer by being heavier. Is it unreasonable to call this a disadvantage?

                  There is no trend that says Floyd consistently abused weights in his career. Facts are Floyd always came under weight because he's just a smaller guy.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by War Room
                    Are you ok kid? I don't use excuses, I use facts.

                    Floyd never looked for the upper hand, where you getting this from? Bigger gloves because his hands got brittle over the years? Vegas becuse it's the Mecca of boxing?

                    The catchweight was put in place for Juans benefit. Juan had never fought over 135 so they put a catchweight in place so the weights would be on more of a playing field so Marquez didn't have to literally jump up two weight classes. Kid, google it.

                    The point of the spear is Floyd was retired for two years, came back and was off two pounds for the first time in 13 years as a professional. Is it really unreasonable to expect something like that from a 32 year old fighter on a two year lay off? No.

                    Being bigger makes you slower, Floyd style would suffer by being heavier. Is it unreasonable to call this a disadvantage?

                    There is no trend that says Floyd consistently abused weights in his career. Facts are Floyd always came under weight because he's just a smaller guy.
                    the fact that he didn't take the catchweight seriously is a big advantage for him.. drained? nah.. weight bully is easy for that fight. marquez went up in lbs made him slower and for the excuses i must say "The point of the spear is Floyd was retired for two years, came back and was off two pounds for the first time in 13 years as a professional." Is a bad one. floyd was a professional boxer but in the end he was not for taking these advantages to him.. he really just paid the penalties coz it won't dent his money in the pocket and at the same time he was the bigger guy in that night. do you see it as a fair fight?

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by blowblow
                      the fact that he didn't take the catchweight seriously is a big advantage for him.. drained? nah.. weight bully is easy for that fight. marquez went up in lbs made him slower and for the excuses i must say "The point of the spear is Floyd was retired for two years, came back and was off two pounds for the first time in 13 years as a professional." Is a bad one. floyd was a professional boxer but in the end he was not for taking these advantages to him.. he really just paid the penalties coz it won't dent his money in the pocket and at the same time he was the bigger guy in that night. do you see it as a fair fight?
                      OK, let's not rage now, use paragraphs instead of walls of text. This is very difficult to read. If we're going to have a decent discussion, you got to meet me halfway here ok?

                      I'm sure he took it seriously, just when you're at the end of your prime as a boxer things like losing weight aren't as easy as they were when you were younger. These are facts of science and life. Floyd is a gym rat, training at like 2am like a boxing junky. Let's keep it real please and stick to what we know.

                      Marquez was never a fast puncher, have you seen him fighter before lol? Marquez was a great counter puncher and had other champion qualities like being able to shift gears and make big adjustments mid fight.

                      Floyd would always be the bigger guy, he was a natural 130 pounder, Marquez was a natural 125 pounder maybe debut'd at 120. Floyd moved up in weight quicker than Marquez did. Floyd is taller with longer reach. No matter how you cut it, Floyd was always bigger.

                      I don't think a 135 pounder moving up to 147 is ever a good idea, but the catch weight made it more of a fair fight. This fight was obviously a soft touch for Floyd coming out of a two year retirement. You don't fight the best in your division after taking two years off. It's not a smart move.

                      Hardly the hallmark of trying to get the upperhand your entire career like you're trying to prove though. The facts just aren't there.

                      Look man, I love Marauez I'm a huge fan but the facts are his was 3rd fiddle to the greats in his natural class during his time.

                      He avoided MAB and Morales like the plague, why? Because they would have stomped his a$$ into retirement.

                      Look, I see your sig with the gifs and stuff. You're a Floyd hater and whatever I say isn't going to make you take those gifs down and make you a more reasonable person.

                      But I'm telling you, hating on Floyd's career and skills makes you look ******.

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