How great was Floyd Mayweather??

[djtmal]

118-110 by a 38 year old man at the end of his career with brittle hands. Looks like an a$$ whoppin to me.

So what if there was clinches, Manny got dominated by an old guy with a basic plan everyone saw coming a mile away.

Manny cherry picked the best wins of his career and you got no argument besides I'm a Floyd boy. Go punch a whole in your wall loser.



9% jabs? 19% power punches? 27% overall?

Floyd doubled and tripled those numbers.

DOMINATED LMAO.

I saw 150 clinches and 12 rounds of inconclusiveness.

I see you get moist by Floyd cherrypicking the best guys on his resume.

[Rockin']

Know nothings know nothing you say?

I dunno man, you been on some crazy shet and you sound like you're from another country/planet anyway, and you always sign your name like a nutcase. How the fcuck am I to presume what a nutter may or may not do, say, or mean?

I used to fight so I dunno what you're on about. I know who can do what, I'm a student of the game.

I know who gonna beat who before they beat them. I got the stacks to prove it.

****Rockin..........tell the truth, how long it beens ince you smoked some rock bruh?

Post up your boxrec. Again, I have never smoked rock, I never will.

Anybody can claim to have fought, it's alot easier than actually going out there and fighting. The people on the internet would never lie about anything. What proof do you have that you ever fought? And why do you not share your knowledge in Training and Nutrition? .............Rockin'

[War Room]

Post up your boxrec. Again, I have never smoked rock, I never will.

Anybody can claim to have fought, it's alot easier than actually going out there and fighting. The people on the internet would never lie about anything. What proof do you have that you ever fought? And why do you not share your knowledge in Training and Nutrition? .............Rockin'

You want my address and SSN too?

Post up your boxrec tough guy.

You on something, that I know. Maybe you just...........KnobRockin' too much?

You seem like you really want everybody to know you trained with Miller. IDGAF what you say you did because you're nuts. I mean, look at your sig. So weird, you're like some weirdo hillbilly liar.

Long Live Donald Trump and the USA!!!
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LOSER LMAO.

I saw 150 clinches and 12 rounds of inconclusiveness.

I see you get moist by Floyd cherrypicking the best guys on his resume.

I give you plenty of points to dispute, but all you got is moist. I feel like I'm talking to Napoleon Dynamite.

Like, why are you even here?

[Oregonian]

Right now i put him in top 20-25 but if floyd didn't duck and fight boxers in his prime and still become undefeated i have to say top 10-15 atg.

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Let me guess, PAC is your top 5 list of not number 1, right?

[Oregonian]

This reads like a who's who of excuses.

Were they both in their prime when they fought. No. So who's to say what would happen if both were in their prime. Especially since Floyd had the opportunity to fight these guys when they were in their prime, but he was either retired or on vacation.

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Why didn’t Manny go after Floyd in 2005 or 2006 or 2007??
Why wait until Floyd is old to call him out?

[Rockin']

You want my

Post up your boxrec tough guy.

You on something, that I know. Maybe you just...........KnobRockin' too much?

You seem like you really want everybody to know you trained with Miller. IDGAF what you say you did because you're nuts. I mean, look at your sig. So weird, you're like some weirdo hillbilly liar.

"Address and SSN too?" No, just some proof that you were/are a fighter. Who did you ever train with? ............Rockin'

[War Room]

"Address and SSN too?" No, just some proof that you were/are a fighter. Who did you ever train with? ............Rockin'

KnobRockin'...........I don't need to validate myself with you you fcukin weirdo.

[Rockin']

KnobRockin'...........I don't need to validate myself with you you fcukin weirdo.

Because you can't prove sheet, except that you are full of it.

So I'm weird to you. Atleast I am not a know nothing.

And in keeping with the threads subject, Floyd did great!.........Rockin'

[Oregonian]

Great, thank you for trying.

Reiterating, Floyd was out for two years, 13 years as a pro, and 32 years old. You need better research and understanding of the evolution of sports and athletics in boxing. I'm going to help you.

Pro careers go 14-16 years and end stage is 32-34 if you turn pro at 18 and don't take a lot of damamge along the way. Floyd was at the literal end of his prime. These are numerical facts.



Incorrect. I never said he was a slow puncher. I said he was never a fast puncher. There are things more important than being fast. Going up in weight doesn't always diminish punch speed, power yes, foot speed yes, punch speed, not so much.



it wasn't "more" of an advantage. It's just how they were born. One was bigger, one was smaller. Science.

Floyd would never lose to Marquez under any reasonable circumstances. 100 out of 100 Floyd wins. Look man, Floyd and Marquez are both counter punchers and one of better than the other. That's just the way it is.



Again, wrong. Everyone doesn't believe that two years off isn't a big factor. Who are you referring to? I've never heard that in my life. Two years off for anyone is a big deal. If it wasn't, he wouldn't have taken a tune up fight and this was a tune up fight.



Manny landed some punches sure, but he got dominated during the fight. Manny is a great fighter, no argument there, but he was levels under Floyd and Floyd would beat him worse if he wasn't well out of his prime. I gave Manny like three rounds give or take. It wasn't close and Floyd was well out of his prime. He retired 2 fights after. Again, numerical facts.

Remember I said a pro career goes 14-16 years and prime ends 32-34? Well Floyd was 19 years as a pro as 38 year old. Don't take my word for it, do your own research on boxrec. Look at atg's and when they were at their worst. Some lasted longer because they took less damage, divisions and talent pool got lower, etc. But if you know the sport you should know when they started looking bad. Those numbers are solid.

• Ali at 18 years as a pro, he was getting trounced by Leon Spinks. Shavers beat the living day lights out of him the year before.
• Mosley at 19 years pro got blasted out by Mundine!
• Oscar made it 16 years.
• Leonard, 14 years in was getting obliterated by Norris. 20 years in, stopped by Camacho.
• Tyson, 19 years in smoked by Williams and next year destroyed by McBride.

Floyd doesnt run, he stalks, this has been proven time and time again.

And let's be honest, you're not trying to "show" anybody anything like your sig is some educational segment lmao. You're being a troll and trying to make fun of Floyd. Look at your avatar, keep it real!



What cherry picked opponents though? Floyd called our Mosely and Oscar well during their prime. I don't like discrediting Manny, it's just how things played out. He IS the catchweight king. His handlers did get his biggest names when they were at their weakest. You can't factually say the same thing about Floyd.

It's ok to like both fighters you know. I like them both. Manny is a great fighter, no doubt. Floyd is better, so what, it's not a big deal. You can't honestly say Manny is better and not look willfully ignorant. The facts are overwhelming.

You can hum and haw until the cows come home about how Floyd did this and that, but it doesn't make any sense.

It's totally ok to change your stance. Real men admit defeat. I mean, look at Wilder. The guy can't admit he lost legit and it looks absolutely nuts. Even a lot of the black community is turning their backs on him. Know what I mean? You ripping on Floyd, you kinda look like Wilder talking about heavy suits, spiked water, jealous trainers, moon wasn't in line with the sun, etc.

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Truer word have never been spoken.
Also just to add to your factual points, why didn’t Manny go after Floyd in 2005 or 2006 or 2007? They waited for Floyd to get old.
To top it off, PAC fought Cotto at a catchweight in 2009 so we know there is no way in hell he would have fought Floyd at a true WW platform.

[Johnny2x2x]

Top 5 all time to me. Robinson, Armstrong, Ali, Mayweather, Leonard are the top 5 in any order.