Mayweather Did More Damage to Boxing Than the UFC Ever Did

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  • Marchegiano
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    #41
    Floyd is the GOAT. If you don't like Money you don't really like boxing, **** y'all.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #42
      Originally posted by djtmal
      People paid to see Tyson because either way there was going to be a ko.

      People paid to see Floyd because they wanted to see him lose.

      Even your boy says so:

      For everyone that's ever purchased a Floyd Mayweather fight, whether you paid to see me win or you paid to see me lose, I'm the smart one at the end of the day, because you paid to see me."

      Floyd just wanted to sell the ppv not the fight itself. He really didn't care how the fight was perceived because he was only doing the bare minimum to win against a cherrypicked opponent anyways.
      You don't know why people other than yourself purchased a fight. People pay for things they want to see. They wanted to see Tyson fight and they wanted to see Floyd fight.

      Floyd saying that is him responding to someone. It isn't an acknowledgement that your opinion is fact.

      My point still stands-Floyd brought casual fans to the sport and helped elevate the sport in many ways. He made 24/7 a staple of pre fight promotion.

      The dropoff since he left is like the dropoff in the NBA once Magic and MJ left-casual fans know greatness and they know when guys not as good are being forced down their throats.

      Your real problem is because casual fans don't hold Manny, Canelo and others in the same regard they hold Floyd they don't watch the sport as much now that Floyd is retired.

      They watch Floyd and Tyson's exhibitions more than they watch these other guys actual fights.

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      • djtmal
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        #43
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        No matter how many times you post it, you will never be able to speak for anyone other than yourself. Not quoting the whole post shows you know the objective data proves your argument wrong. You have no real point to make, just doubling and tripling down on your argument out of hate and spite. I don't see the point in that.

        The reality is, just like any other fighter, casual sports fans paid to see him fight. If casual sports fans don't pay to see other guys, they need to do things to change that, just like Floyd did when casual fans weren't watching him.

        The problem with your point is casual fans watched Baldomir and Guerrero, champions who you derisively call slow and flat footed, lose to Floyd by the same margins he beat Shane, JMM, Manny and Canelo-future HOFers.

        If you're a casual fan, why would you tune in to watch these guys fight if you watched them look so average against Floyd?
        Wtf. Now you exaggerating. Floyd/Baldimir was on regular HBO to a half-empty arena, and Floyd stunk up the spot so bad most of the people left before the end the fight. When Larry Merchant questioned him about it, Floyd got extra defensive but dude, you was quite cool with how the fight played out.

        He needed a gimmick and alter ego, if he was going to be that lame a personality, plus just going to do the bare minimum.

        Now Srl THATs a dude who was good for boxing. Class, charisma up the ying yang. Spoke eloquently. Could **** in the ring, plus was making fights with guys in their prime and was knocking them out. On mainstream television commercials. Could bring him home to meet the family. Boxing was front page news when Srl was fighting. Floyd he good when its time to hang out at the strip club.

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        • travestyny
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          #44
          Spoon23 has been taking his English lessons seriously, I see.

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            #45
            Boxing is the only thing that kills itself with this constant over-marination of fights.

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            • djtmal
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              #46
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              You don't know why people other than yourself purchased a fight. People pay for things they want to see. They wanted to see Tyson fight and they wanted to see Floyd fight.

              Floyd saying that is him responding to someone. It isn't an acknowledgement that your opinion is fact.

              My point still stands-Floyd brought casual fans to the sport and helped elevate the sport in many ways. He made 24/7 a staple of pre fight promotion.

              The dropoff since he left is like the dropoff in the NBA once Magic and MJ left-casual fans know greatness and they know when guys not as good are being forced down their throats.

              Your real problem is because casual fans don't hold Manny, Canelo and others in the same regard they hold Floyd they don't watch the sport as much now that Floyd is retired.

              They watch Floyd and Tyson's exhibitions more than they watch these other guys actual fights.
              Tyson was putting a**es in the seats early in his career strictly on how spectacular he was knocking guys out. His bizarreness was just icing on the cake once his personal life spiraled out of control.

              Floyd was knocking guys out, but he wasn't putting no a**es in the seats. He needed the extra gimmick. Hamed came to America and did in one fight what Floyd had to work half his career for.
              Tyson has lost and was still a major draw. Floyd loses that 0 and how much you want to bet the jig is up marketability wise.

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              • buddyr
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                #47
                The damage to boxing was done during the DLH/Hopkins fight being made cuz I swear that’s the first I ever saw the WBO being recognized as a legit title. After that and 4 belts per division, the WBA later started their bs and now the WBC with the franchise. So it was bad enough with just the WBC, WBA, and IBF but when the WBO became official in 2004, it was over then. Cuz the WBO normally had the weaker champions (not always though) and now you got guys like Broner can claim he’s a 4 division champion. Imagine trying to explain to someone that doesn’t know **** about boxing and watches fools like Skip, Stephen a smith , and Shannon sharpe all day that Ray Robinson’s 2 titles at WW and MW are more important than being a 4 weight champ in this era.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by djtmal
                  Wtf. Now you exaggerating. Floyd/Baldimir was on regular HBO to a half-empty arena, and Floyd stunk up the spot so bad most of the people left before the end the fight. When Larry Merchant questioned him about it, Floyd got extra defensive but dude, you was quite cool with how the fight played out.

                  He needed a gimmick and alter ego, if he was going to be that lame a personality, plus just going to do the bare minimum.

                  Now Srl THATs a dude who was good for boxing. Class, charisma up the ying yang. Spoke eloquently. Could **** in the ring, plus was making fights with guys in their prime and was knocking them out. On mainstream television commercials. Could bring him home to meet the family. Boxing was front page news when Srl was fighting. Floyd he good when its time to hang out at the strip club.
                  Read the March 30, 1991, Los Angeles Times story about Sugar Ray Leonard admitting to physically abusing his
                  wife, including hitting her with closed fists, and to using ******* and alcohol then get back to me about bringing him home to meet your family.

                  He waited 5 years to fight Hagler after going into the ring and acting like he was going to fight him. Took him 8 years to give Hearns a rematch. Guess you aren't holding those against him like you do Floyd.

                  Yes, boxing, horse racing and baseball were huge when SRL was fighting. That changed when Floyd was in his prime yet he still managed to set records even though the sport didn't occupy the same space in the sports hierarchy it once had enjoyed. That just shows how he elevated the sport at a time it was in decline.

                  You probably need to learn a little more about the history of the sport before you post again. It's clear you lack the knowledge necessary to have an opinion on this subject that is valid.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by just the facts
                    Hilarious! Floyd hasn’t fought a meaningful fight in more than five years but every day there’s two or three new I hate Floyd threads.
                    Yeah it's pretty sad.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by djtmal
                      Tyson was putting a**es in the seats early in his career strictly on how spectacular he was knocking guys out. His bizarreness was just icing on the cake once his personal life spiraled out of control.

                      Floyd was knocking guys out, but he wasn't putting no a**es in the seats. He needed the extra gimmick. Hamed came to America and did in one fight what Floyd had to work half his career for.
                      Tyson has lost and was still a major draw. Floyd loses that 0 and how much you want to bet the jig is up marketability wise.
                      Dude, there is more than one way to fill an arena with fans. Don't you understand that?

                      Yes, Floyd didn't sell seats initially. I've posted that dozens of times. He found a way not only to sell seats, but sell more of them at a higher price point than any other boxer in history.

                      That isn't bad for the sport, it's only bad for those boxers and their fans who expected to ride off those coattails without doing the work.

                      We will never know what happened if he lost because he didn't. You can wish, hope and pray all you want that he loses but he didn't. If he comes back and loses no one cares because he is old and coming back from retirement.

                      It would be like Norris or Camacho beating SRL. A loss has no affect on his legacy or marketability whatsoever.

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