Mayweather Did More Damage to Boxing Than the UFC Ever Did

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    This analysis isn't rooted in any fact. Anyone that co signs or agrees with this is as ****** as the TS.

    Floyd didn't hurt the sport in any way. He drew casual fans to the sport. He made everyone involved that worked with him financially successful.

    The problem with the sport is casual fans like greatness-Ali, SRL, Floyd- they don't like mediocrity shoved down their throats and it being called great when it isn't. Casual fans know the difference. The problem is idiots like the TS and those in this thread that claim to be huge fans of the sport that agree with him. You are all blinded by hate.

    Canelo, Manny, Loma, AJ, Fury, Spence, Crawford and whomever else you deem the top p4p best in the sport simply are not as good as Floyd in the eyes of the casual fan. That is why the casual fans don't tune in as much. None of them have the ability to make a fight seem like a big event to mainstream fans like Floyd did.

    Instead of crying like b-tches, tell your favorite guys to get better in the ring and do more outside of it. Elevate the sport the way Floyd did.
    Originally posted by HewJohnson
    Stopped reading after that BIG LIE.


    Casuals watching a defensive genius pot shot and hold and run all night?!?!


    LMFAO

    THE BIG DUMB

    Floyd ran casuals AWAY from the sport! It was the complete opposite!
    You read it. You just couldn't refute it so you lied about not reading it and then cut off the post.

    Floyd has the top 4 (or 4 of the top 5) PPV selling fights in the history of the sport. He sold out MGM repeatedly with some of the highest ticket prices ever. The ratings of his non PPV fights were well above average.

    Any objective analysis of the data proves Floyd drew casual fans. As usual, you think your opinion outweighs the facts. It doesn't.

    You may not like to watch Floyd. Cool. You're a drunken idiot. Your viewing habits are surely different from regular, normal, sane people.

    Floyd utilized social media in a way to gain attention others haven't. He "sold" fights to the public in ways others haven't been able to.

    Not Floyd's fault if the boxers you like haven't been able to draw fans like Floyd did.

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    • Rip Chudd
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      This analysis isn't rooted in any fact. Anyone that co signs or agrees with this is as ****** as the TS.

      Floyd didn't hurt the sport in any way. He drew casual fans to the sport. He made everyone involved that worked with him financially successful.

      The problem with the sport is casual fans like greatness-Ali, SRL, Floyd- they don't like mediocrity shoved down their throats and it being called great when it isn't. Casual fans know the difference. The problem is idiots like the TS and those in this thread that claim to be huge fans of the sport that agree with him. You are all blinded by hate.

      Canelo, Manny, Loma, AJ, Fury, Spence, Crawford and whomever else you deem the top p4p best in the sport simply are not as good as Floyd in the eyes of the casual fan. That is why the casual fans don't tune in as much. None of them have the ability to make a fight seem like a big event to mainstream fans like Floyd did.

      Instead of crying like b-tches, tell your favorite guys to get better in the ring and do more outside of it. Elevate the sport the way Floyd did.
      Talk to 'em!!!

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #13
        Originally posted by iamboxing
        UFC may have drawn away more fight fans from boxing, but the rot was already set with Mayweather's drawn out pansy, boring purist style of boxing. I'd say around 2010 after the Mayweather Pacquaio fight is when casuals were like, "**** this, I have better things to do" and moved to UFC.

        This is the guy who once walked to the ring with Justin Beiber. He was so thirsty for fame back then, he just went with the latest craze, whether he was into his music or not. This explains why he's fighting Logan Paul, a famous YouTuber with millions of subscribers and views.

        He did the numbers. Fight someone insanely popular to stay current and hope their popularity propels you back into the limelight. What a desperate, repugnant cliche he's become.

        Anyway, not content with making boxing boring and sterile, and being an egomaniac, he makes a mockery of the sport that gave him so much by fighting UFC fighters and the latest insult is probably the worst of all.

        It's embarrassing that this site actually has his avatar on their forum heading. Anyone who is a fan of Mayweather at this point is a mental deficient.
        - -Open a can of TBE TUE 51-0 worms to watch'em squirm is ya?

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          #14
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          This analysis isn't rooted in any fact. Anyone that co signs or agrees with this is as ****** as the TS.

          Floyd didn't hurt the sport in any way. He drew casual fans to the sport. He made everyone involved that worked with him financially successful.

          The problem with the sport is casual fans like greatness-Ali, SRL, Floyd- they don't like mediocrity shoved down their throats and it being called great when it isn't. Casual fans know the difference. The problem is idiots like the TS and those in this thread that claim to be huge fans of the sport that agree with him. You are all blinded by hate.

          Canelo, Manny, Loma, AJ, Fury, Spence, Crawford and whomever else you deem the top p4p best in the sport simply are not as good as Floyd in the eyes of the casual fan. That is why the casual fans don't tune in as much. None of them have the ability to make a fight seem like a big event to mainstream fans like Floyd did.

          Instead of crying like b-tches, tell your favorite guys to get better in the ring and do more outside of it. Elevate the sport the way Floyd did.
          Floyd elevated the hype/promotion end of the sport but the sweet science part was the problem once you bought the seat in the arena or purchased the ppv.


          Ali, Srl, even Oscar; those guys put on great fights more often than not even when they lost; Floyd created a character people for the most part loathed; he didn't promise you a great fight he just wanted you to buy his ppv which imo watered down the ppv format

          People for the most part paid to see Floyd lose so all Floyd had to do was make sure the opponent wasn't much of a threat. Being undefeated for Floyd was a major part of the gimmick.

          Floyd fights never delivered on the hype and the buildup that the Money May character lead you to believe on the 24/7's and all the promotion. Unless you just love to see Floyd in one sided affairs, you always walked away with a bad taste in your mouth.

          Honestly without the Money May character these fights would have only been WCB worthy:

          Floyd vs. Guerrero
          Floyd vs. Ortiz
          Floyd vs. Madonna 2x
          Floyd vs. Berto
          Floyd vs. Lightweight Marquez
          Last edited by djtmal; 02-08-2021, 10:42 AM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            You read it. You just couldn't refute it so you lied about not reading it and then cut off the post.

            Floyd has the top 4 (or 4 of the top 5) PPV selling fights in the history of the sport. He sold out MGM repeatedly with some of the highest ticket prices ever. The ratings of his non PPV fights were well above average.

            Any objective analysis of the data proves Floyd drew casual fans. As usual, you think your opinion outweighs the facts. It doesn't.

            You may not like to watch Floyd. Cool. You're a drunken idiot. Your viewing habits are surely different from regular, normal, sane people.

            Floyd utilized social media in a way to gain attention others haven't. He "sold" fights to the public in ways others haven't been able to.

            Not Floyd's fault if the boxers you like haven't been able to draw fans like Floyd did.
            - -When Arum gave him a homecoming in Michigan, what?

            3000 fans? 4000 fans?

            He the B side to Oscar and the B side for the rematch that he first quit boxing over.

            Manny has more PPVs and years before the Gatti PPV wher Sissyboy Floydy the B side.

            Social media was Ellerbee, not U hero.

            Tenshin in da house!

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #16
              Originally posted by djtmal
              Floyd elevated the hype/promotion end of the sport but the sweet science part was the problem once you bought the seat in the arena or purchased the ppv.


              Ali, Srl, even Oscar; those guys put on great fights more often than not even when they lost; Floyd created a character people for the most part loathed; he didn't promise you a great fight he just wanted you to buy his ppv which imo watered down the ppv format

              People for the most part paid to see Floyd lose so all Floyd had to do was make sure the opponent wasn't much of a threat. Being undefeated for Floyd was a major part of the gimmick.

              Floyd fights never delivered on the hype and the buildup that the Money May character lead you to believe on the 24/7's and all the promotion. Unless you just love to see Floyd in one sided affairs, you always walked away with a bad taste in your mouth.

              Honestly without the Money May character these fights would have only been WCB worthy:

              Floyd vs. Guerrero
              Floyd vs. Ortiz
              Floyd vs. Madonna 2x
              Floyd vs. Berto
              Floyd vs. Lightweight Marquez
              Floyd is as talented and highly skilled a fighter as we have ever seen. Fans paid more for his tickets than any other fighter in the same arena. To suggest the sweet science was an issue isn't supported by any data.

              Casual fans appreciated his dominance more than you did because it was the guys you liked and picked to beat him that Floyd was dominating. You surely can't speak with any reasonable validity as to why people purchased tickets or the PPV. All you can do is tell us why you did-if you purchased his fights just to se him lose than that says a lot about you as a petty and childish person.

              True, Floyd's fights lacked drama like many ATG's. That is because there was no one on his level, despite the fact the networks marketed them as such and fans like you believed it. Frazier was almost as good as Ali, Duran was a good as Lenoard, hell Ward and Gatti were evenly matched. Hence great fights.

              Floyd is just far superior to Canelo, Manny, Jmm and Shane, ODH gave him a fight. Cotto gave him a great fight. The others and Hatton and Corrales didn't. That is on them. Like I said, casual fans celebrate Floyd's greatness. Guys like you whine and cry.

              What you think is some kind of diss actually proves my point. Because Floyd was involved, those fights were PPV. Without Floyd, those are regular fights. That is what Floyd did for the sport-provided a platform where lesser known guys got huge exposure they otherwise wouldn't.

              Only a real idiot, or someone who just really hates Floyd, would see this as a negative.

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              • Floyd is TBE
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                #17
                Then go ****ing watch UFC. Sick of these Dana White shills coming to a BOXING forum to whine about how much they hate boxing and love UFC

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                • boliodogs
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                  #18
                  I like the UFC and watch it and enjoy it, I still enjoy boxing as much as ever and more than the UFC. Mayweather is a very good fighter but not a very exciting fighter to me. I think he is arrogant and hard to like as a person and I rarely rooted for him but I knew he was probably to good to lose.He may not have done boxing any good but he is only one boxer and can't single handed ruin boxing. I hope he beats the hell out of both Paul brothers. They brag their asses off and act like they are great boxers while they feast on little retired basketball players and mma guys while never fighting even lousy pro boxers. Let Mayweather give them a taste of real pro boxing and spot them 50 pounds and 20 years and still humiliate them. There are lots of exciting boxers to keep boxing going, I just wish the fought more often than they do now.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                    - -When Arum gave him a homecoming in Michigan, what?

                    3000 fans? 4000 fans?

                    He the B side to Oscar and the B side for the rematch that he first quit boxing over.

                    Manny has more PPVs and years before the Gatti PPV wher Sissyboy Floydy the B side.

                    Social media was Ellerbee, not U hero.

                    Tenshin in da house!
                    Just like djtmal, what you think is supposed to be a diss shows exactly why Floyd was great for the sport.

                    He was a fighter that couldn't really draw despite his high KO ratio and quality wins. Yes, he was the B side to Gatti. Floyd went to his hometown and beat the ever living sh-t out of Gatti (RIP). Casual fans saw this and gravitated toward Floyd. Guys like you hated on it because he beat a guy you loved.

                    Then, when ODH finally manned up and gave him the fight, Floyd took advantage of the opportunity. He "sold the fight", linked with 50 Cent, drove 24/7 to Emmy winning status, creating a new industry standard that has helped fighters and networks market PPV fights.

                    Then he went out and won clearly. It wasn't a dominant KO but it was a clear win and casual fans saw that. That is why they continued to buy his fights.

                    Mr. Honda is one of the most successful businessman in Japan. He saw an opportunity to make money and increase the profile of his sports company so he linked with Floyd for the exhibition. It worked . Everyone got paid handsomely. How does that hurt the sport?

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                    • boliodogs
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
                      Then go ****ing watch UFC. Sick of these Dana White shills coming to a BOXING forum to whine about how much they hate boxing and love UFC
                      Yes they do that a lot. There are MMA boards and they should just stay there.

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