Mayweather Did More Damage to Boxing Than the UFC Ever Did

[b00g13man]

#FloydRuinsLives

[djtmal]

No matter how many times you post it will not make it true. You have no idea why people paid to watch Floyd other than they liked watching him.

Oh yeah I have a great idea why. Because as Pretty Boy Floyd he was a good fighter but unappealing to the masses. He was just being himself and it wasn't selling. As Money May he created a persona that drew attention to him more as a sideshow.

It was all about people paying to see the undefeated loudmouth lose. As soon as he lost the jig would be up. All Floyd had to do, was do enough to win and he was good. No risks, nobody in their prime, just keep those slow, flat footed, Baldymirs and Guerreros coming and we good.

[Lonelystoner]

You same guys that hate Floyd style tuen around hate on wilder for going for the knockout. Go sit down

[thebrownbomber_]

Mayweather, 5 years retired, still kills the casuals LOL. Dude isn't even active its not his fault attention mongerers like Ryan Garcia are taking over boxing.

[RespekonMyName]

Stopped reading after that BIG LIE.


Casuals watching a defensive genius pot shot and hold and run all night?!?!


LMFAO

THE BIG DUMB

Floyd ran casuals AWAY from the sport! It was the complete opposite!

What is up with this bogus description of Floyd's fights? People on a boxing site have no clue what they're watching. I see this constantly.

[boogbx]

Message boards ruin boxing.

Mayweather is a great fighter, he didn't do any damage.

I actually support this trend of fighter management and protection. Most of my favorite fighters of the 80's, 90
s are either dead or fucced up. Wilfredo Gomez, Gerald Mccllellan, James Toney, Camacho, Arguello, Corrales.

Fighters weren't taken care of like they are now and we see the consequence.

I want my fighters going out like Floyd Maweather, Tim Bradley, Juan Manuel Marquez, and Andre Ward.

That said Chavez is amazing. The amount of wars and he is still intact fighting Arce.

[The Big Dunn]

Oh yeah I have a great idea why. Because as Pretty Boy Floyd he was a good fighter but unappealing to the masses. He was just being himself and it wasn't selling. As Money May he created a persona that drew attention to him more as a sideshow.

It was all about people paying to see the undefeated loudmouth lose. As soon as he lost the jig would be up. All Floyd had to do, was do enough to win and he was good. No risks, nobody in their prime, just keep those slow, flat footed, Baldymirs and Guerreros coming and we good.

No matter how many times you post it, you will never be able to speak for anyone other than yourself. Not quoting the whole post shows you know the objective data proves your argument wrong. You have no real point to make, just doubling and tripling down on your argument out of hate and spite. I don't see the point in that.

The reality is, just like any other fighter, casual sports fans paid to see him fight. If casual sports fans don't pay to see other guys, they need to do things to change that, just like Floyd did when casual fans weren't watching him.

The problem with your point is casual fans watched Baldomir and Guerrero, champions who you derisively call slow and flat footed, lose to Floyd by the same margins he beat Shane, JMM, Manny and Canelo-future HOFers.

If you're a casual fan, why would you tune in to watch these guys fight if you watched them look so average against Floyd?

[djtmal]

I'm not butt hurt in any way. I am arguing that any relevant data shows Floyd helped the sport. I called you petty and childish because of what you posted. You don't want to discuss the relevant information because it proves your opinion is incorrect.

Again, how you walked away from the fight is how you did. That doesn't mean the casual fans did. Proof that they didn't is they continued to purchase his fights and buy tickets to the fights.

You keep wanting your opinion and the opinion of a few other posters that admittedly don't like Floyd to represent everyone's opinion. It doesn't and it never will. You may not think it's good for the sport but that is rooted in your agenda, not reality.

Yes, other guys have tried to do the same thing Floyd has done. It doesn't work because they are not as good as Floyd, a point I keep making.

For example-Floyd won as a boxer puncher with a high KO ratio and won as arguably the best defensive guy we've ever seen. What other fighter has the skill to do that? Casual fans see this and they see the lack of this ability in other guys to do same.

Being a master of your craft and drawing casual fans in record numbers isn't bad for the sport. Anyone who says it is frankly is either ******, has an anti Floyd agenda, or both.

The problem here is you and others are not adult enough to just give Floyd credit. Instead, you try to re litigate his career and make everything negative because the guys you like couldn't beat him and because he was able to monetize himself in ways you only wish the guys you like could.

You need to let it go. God just blesses all of us differently.

No the problem really is you can't accept the little credit non Floyd worshippers give him, and not everybody puts Floyd on the pedestal that you do. Thats all you do is boohoo about how little respect Floyd gets and how much hate he gets poor you.

You can't accept the knocks on Floyd have truth to them, are supported with facts, are shared by countless hardcores and casuals alike on youtube, other boxing sites, on the street, etc. You seem to think that this is some isolated hate from a few random individuals because your blind Floyd love warped your sense of reality.

Plus you personally flip flop from day to day. Today you saying casuals bought Floyds fights because of his boxing, the next minute you will be in full agreement that most people are haters who paid to see him lose and Floyd was laughing all the way to the bank.

All Floyd had to do was beat the best guys in his era in their prime and these threads would get no traction.

[djtmal]

No matter how many times you post it, you will never be able to speak for anyone other than yourself. Not quoting the whole post shows you know the objective data proves your argument wrong. You have no real point to make, just doubling and tripling down on your argument out of hate and spite. I don't see the point in that.

The reality is, just like any other fighter, casual sports fans paid to see him fight. If casual sports fans don't pay to see other guys, they need to do things to change that, just like Floyd did when casual fans weren't watching him.

The problem with your point is casual fans watched Baldomir and Guerrero, champions who you derisively call slow and flat footed, lose to Floyd by the same margins he beat Shane, JMM, Manny and Canelo-future HOFers.

If you're a casual fan, why would you tune in to watch these guys fight if you watched them look so average against Floyd?

People paid to see Tyson because either way there was going to be a ko.

People paid to see Floyd because they wanted to see him lose.

Even your boy says so:

For everyone that's ever purchased a Floyd Mayweather fight, whether you paid to see me win or you paid to see me lose, I'm the smart one at the end of the day, because you paid to see me."

Floyd just wanted to sell the ppv not the fight itself. He really didn't care how the fight was perceived because he was only doing the bare minimum to win against a cherrypicked opponent anyways.

[The Big Dunn]

No the problem really is you can't accept the little credit non Floyd worshippers give him, and not everybody puts Floyd on the pedestal that you do. Thats all you do is boohoo about how little respect Floyd gets and how much hate he gets poor you.

You can't accept the knocks on Floyd have truth to them, are supported with facts, are shared by countless hardcores and casuals alike on youtube, other boxing sites, on the street, etc. You seem to think that this is some isolated hate from a few random individuals because your blind Floyd love warped your sense of reality.

Plus you personally flip flop from day to day. Today you saying casuals bought Floyds fights because of his boxing, the next minute you will be in full agreement that most people are haters who paid to see him lose and Floyd was laughing all the way to the bank.

All Floyd had to do was beat the best guys in his era in their prime and these threads would get no traction.

I am not putting him on any pedestal. I don't argue Floyd is anything other than an ATG and best of his era.

What facts? Posting, "I think Floyd hurt the sport" isn't a fact, that is an opinion. Where are the facts to support the opinion? As a response to that opinion, I am pointing to tangible measures of how he has helped grow and elevate the sport. You can't refute them so you have pivoted to talking about me when the discussion should be about the facts.

Posting, "people watched to see Floyd lose" isn't a fact. It's your opinion. That opinion is shared by others but all of those who do are people that don't like Floyd and are huge fans of opponents he beat. I push back on your opinion pointing out that you claim he is fighting no hopers, while also claiming people pay to see him lose. I notice you refused to answer when I asked you how is this possible because anyone with common sense understands if the guys he is fighting has no chance to win, there is no point in "buying to see him lose".

Sorry dude but I'm not flipping on anything. If you and a few other disgruntled fans of guys he beat pay to see him lose, ok, cool. You just can't speak for the masses no matter how much you post, yell, stamp your feet or whine.

These threads get traction because of people like you. Look at the fans of JMM, Hatton and Cotto. They simply give Floyd credit and move on.

The guys like you, pasawakyo, daggum, hugh grant, Spoon23, ghost of, ghost rider, and others who are fans of ODH and Manny that can't seem to just accept the loss and let it go. I guess Floyd was so demeaning and condescending to both that you guys have developed some kind of unhealthy personal vendetta against him and use these threads to get back at him.

Just very pathetic and childish.