Why is Boxing so Dead...

[Marchegiano]

I was even gonna buy the DK PPV until me ol' battleaxe stole my attention.

**** is boring, as ****, at the moment. I been watching a lot of BK...which...I suspect is fixed a lot of the time. Or at least close enough to fixed.

At this point there just isn't **** to watch. Old i've seen 100 million times. Been through the street beefs and dambe, watched all glory has, watched all BK's big three has. Just ****ing bored.

Deontay Wilder needs to KO some fool or some ****, damn.

Hell, the big three HWs were all funner when they were coming up. I liked all 3 more. Now they're all three entitled *****es. Wilder used to be the pride of the south. Now he just *****es. Fury used to be a funny mother ****er, now he makes jokes while asking for more money. Joshua was never cool but you know seeing him kick ass and ask for opportunities rather than 100+ million was cool.

Pac? ****ing useless man. You was the p4p goat, prick.

Crawford sucks

Canelo can eat a ****

Spence sucks too.

Everyone wants to fight no hopers or sit on ass. It's boring. Hell, Usyk-Chisora was one of the better fights I seen....and it was ****ing chisora.

[sicko]

Not Dead BUT not as popular as it use to be and never will be popular as it use to be because the Alternative which is UFC is far more entertaining and they do a better job of not just marketing their sport but also being able to reach that younger Demo that boxing has never been popular with really if you think about it

Not a simple Solution of "oh just make the big fights" because what we hardcore fans consider big fights are not big fights to the rest of the world which will result into promoters losing a lot of money then will become reluctant to make other fights out of fear of losing more money

So while Casuals are annoying, they're the driving force to a successful Event, it is not us the Hardcore because it is really not many of us Hardcore Boxing Fans left so this sport can't survive with just us supporting it. That is why fights on FOX, ESPN are extremely important and it is up to FIGHTERS to deliver when they're being showcased on those Network because it does reach a newer and much larger Audience

So I blame the fighters themselves! Wanting Mayweather type of money and fame without working for it. Mayweather did not become a Superstar in this sport until he was in his 30's

Also I know I was completely wrong when it comes to HBO and how important it was/is. You still have Casuals asking "WTF Happened To HBO Boxing?!" while I did not care for Lampley and the Bias agenda garbage...ESPN, DAZN. FOX all does the same thing so that was just a boxing politics thing not HBO after all

[thebrownbomber_]

2020 was a pretty good year. Alot of elite fighters fought eachother:
Teofimo vs Loma
Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz
Crawford vs Brook
Spence vs Garcia
Canelo vs Smith

I also believe Anthony Joshua vs Kubrat Pulev deserves a mention. While Pulev is not a top heavyweight, I think this win is certainly better than anything on Deontay Wilder's resume.

But yeah, 2021 has not been good and we probably aren't going to any big fights. Ryan garcia is a prime example of why. Goes on a 2 week promo tour to hype up a fight then takes an exhibition that just got cancelled.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Nothing to be excited about these days, no big fights happening or planned, everything is kinda stagnant. Promoter and network fans outnumber real boxing fans. BS corrupt orgs. It's too depressing. Time for fans to stand their ground.

Maybe we are losing our balls to say what we mean to these crooks.

Facts, its pathetic

[TMLT87]

Not Dead BUT not as popular as it use to be and never will be popular as it use to be because the Alternative which is UFC is far more entertaining and they do a better job of not just marketing their sport but also being able to reach that younger Demo that boxing has never been popular with really if you think about it

Pretty much. Boxing will carry on and still have spikes in interest every now and then when an AJ/Fury type fight happens, but its never going to go back to what it was when it was the only game in town. Its also a lot more prone to criticism now that theres something equally big to compare it to. 20 years ago if someone got annoyed with corruption, marinating or other boxing bull**** they wouldnt immediately draw a (usually unfavourable) comparison with the UFC, because the UFC was barely a blip on the radar at that point.

[BoxingIsGreat]

One thing that pisses me off the most is the promotional divide.

[KidDinamita]

We can't blame everything on some virus. People have already got used to no crowd. No excuses. Don't overpay fighters, pay them what they are worth.

A lot of fighters are finding the virus as an excuse to back off the planned events.

[Ray*]

One thing that pisses me off the most is the promotional divide.

This is my biggest issue moving forward. I don't care which fighter is signed with whom. The politics is just annoying, it was annoying when Don King used to try and control the HW division (At least we got the fights that we wanted), and it was annoying when Arum played that game not so long ago, and its annoying now that PBC are following that trend....

[_original_]

2020 was a pretty good year. Alot of elite fighters fought eachother:
Teofimo vs Loma
Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz
Crawford vs Brook
Spence vs Garcia
Canelo vs Smith

I also believe Anthony Joshua vs Kubrat Pulev deserves a mention. While Pulev is not a top heavyweight, I think this win is certainly better than anything on Deontay Wilder's resume.

But yeah, 2021 has not been good and we probably aren't going to any big fights. Ryan garcia is a prime example of why. Goes on a 2 week promo tour to hype up a fight then takes an exhibition that just got cancelled.

I appreciate your optimism but 2020 was an atrocious year for boxing, one of the worst in recent memories. All of those boxing matches would have been put into ONE UFC ppv last year, a sport that had an amazing year because they constantly match the best against the best.

Plus, only Lomachenko VS Teo was the only stellar competitive fight. And that’s only because Teo won, on paper it looked like a mismatch.

[Eff Pandas]

I was even gonna buy the DK PPV until me ol' battleaxe stole my attention.

**** is boring, as ****, at the moment. I been watching a lot of BK...which...I suspect is fixed a lot of the time. Or at least close enough to fixed.

I think variance is just higher. I know it is for the UFC. You got 30 to 36 minutes to figure out who's best in boxing for any fight on the radar. You got 15 minutes to figure out who's best in MMA for 90%+ of fights. You got 10 minutes to figure out who's best in BKFC for everyone.

And that math works out as such. You need a good round & a half or about 8 minutes to win a MMA fight. You need a good 3 rounds or about 6 minutes to win a BKFC fight. But you need a good 6 to 7 rounds or 18 to 21 minutes to win a boxing fight. Its easier for the cream to rise to the top in boxing & upsets are more likely in BKFC & UFC. And my betting experience suggest as much cuz other combat sports ALWAYS have closer betting lines & upsets are way more common.