Why is Boxing so Dead...

[blowblow]

boxing becomes a joke after someone made the ducking, cherrypicking and avoiding trending which the young lions are doing right now.. too scared to lose their 0's while asking for a higher purse. so boxing is long dead..

[Eff Pandas]

One thing that pisses me off the most is the promotional divide.

The multiple ABC Groups & Promoters are a great one two punch of fookedupness for the sport. They divide the sport 4 times & then divide it another 8 or so times among the major promotional players. The sport is so much smaller cuz of all these parties looking out for their interest instead of boxing's interest.

[El_Mero]

Its not dead, but its mos def not where it should be (among the upper echelon of sports). Promoters/Managers refuse to make the best fights possible, so we get watered down showcase fights most of the time. Like last weekend for example.....Plant/Truax, what a boring main event. Everyone has their own opinion but I thought it was a stinker. No kd's, no excitement, no NADA. Im not a Saul fan by any means, but at least he fought the guy considered #1 in the division, while dominating him. Plant put everyone to sleep not named Truax....

[Eff Pandas]

boxing becomes a joke after someone made the ducking, cherrypicking and avoiding trending which the young lions are doing right now.. too scared to lose their 0's while asking for a higher purse. so boxing is long dead..

I think people just don't realize how much the game has changed.

There was 1 main belt at one time not THAT long ago considering how long the sport has been around. Now there are 4 or more depending on how you count 'em.

Boxers back in the day were lone wolfs & had more control cuz promoters weren't requiring long term deals to make big fights. Now multi-year deals where a boxer has a contract with a promoter are standard & its hard to make fights if you aren't aligned with a major promoter. Promoters basically went from one time event organizers of a fight to investors in a boxers career over a half decade or more in some cases.

With networks signing deals with promoters, not boxers, that gives all the power to promoters so a boxer pretty much has to sign with someone to get on TV & get bigger fights. Fighters probably got the least control of anyone with real skin in the game of boxing & boxers probably got the most skin in the game since its their life & long term health on the line.

[BoxingIsGreat]

The multiple ABC Groups & Promoters are a great one two punch of fookedupness for the sport. They divide the sport 4 times & then divide it another 8 or so times among the major promotional players. The sport is so much smaller cuz of all these parties looking out for their interest instead of boxing's interest.

Correct.

I wish we had more outspoken fighters who speak up for themselves, fighters who can tell us who exactly they want to fight and try to make it happen. Most seem muzzled by BS promoters. Davis is a prime example.

[MUNG]

boxing needs 1 man per division, not 7+ yapping menlets

ok maybe 2 top guys per division who have to unify after making a voluntary or 2

or something else that works to get rid of all the greedy grabbing fingers in the pie

[Eff Pandas]

Correct.

I wish we had more outspoken fighters who speak up for themselves, fighters who can tell us who exactly they want to fight and try to make it happen. Most seem muzzled by BS promoters. Davis is a prime example.

You only have so much control these days is the thing. Only Canelo gots a TV deal I believe. Tank don't got no TV deal. PBC does. And to PBC/Haymon Tank is an investment just like Bud is a TR investment & everyone with a major promoter is an investment to some degree.

As a PBC guy Tank does got more control then folks signed with a standard run of the mill promoter, but there are still fights Tank has lil to no control with making cuz PBC would have to deal with TR or DAZN or whoever to make them. And there are all kinds of contracts already in place that make these fights more or less makeable & there are blueprints with these other boxers/investments that might not have anything to do with Tank anytime soon or simply next.

If Hagler or SRL was around today they'd be in the same situation as these guys now (well SRL would be like the Canelo of today who'd have more control then 99.9% of boxers). If all these guys from now were back in the 70's & 80's or before than we'd likely know a hell of a lot more about these guys then we do now cuz more fights woulda been made cuz there was less things in between fights being made.