Why is Boxing so Dead...

[boliodogs]

I don't think boxing is dead but if it is there is nothing I can do about it. If real boxing fans are the minority then they don't drive the market and we get junk like Tyson vs Jones and Paul brother garbage. Pacquiao may fight very popular but unproven Garcia instead of a top welterweight. The guys in power make the fights that profit them the most and not always the best fights featuring the best fighters against each other. Also some boxers and their promoters are greedy and demand more money than they deserve and are worth. Crawford and Arum for example.

[boliodogs]

I really wish ppv would die.

Love the subscription format - ie you buy your sports channels and boxing is part of it. Or you buy box nation and its got all the content.

Also a small bit of freeview thrown in and available on top.

I never buy fights. I buy all the main boxing channels and they always show the pfv fights on them free within a week. I can wait and watch the same exact fight for free within 7 days and save a lot of money. Plus I record them first so I can fast forward and skip the endless commercials.

[Fangedgrowl]

Everybody waiting on decisions from Pac and Canelo. You’ve got literally 3 whole divisions on standby waiting for 2 men. Add in 135 is filled with a bunch of undefeated talent and nine of them want to face each other. That’s the problem.

Thank you. Covid. Pacquaio has like 3 or 4 guys held up. Canelo has 3 divisions held up. Not his fault. Then the 135 pounders and guys like Stevenson at 130 , who scream everyone is ducking them, but havent fought anyone. Example Haney, Stevenson. Then you have these guys like Paul brothers and these exhibition crap.

[Fangedgrowl]

Thank you. Covid. Pacquaio has like 3 or 4 guys held up. Canelo has 3 divisions held up. Not his fault. Then the 135 pounders and guys like Stevenson at 130 , who scream everyone is ducking them, but havent fought anyone. Example Haney, Stevenson. Then you have these guys like Paul brothers and these exhibition crap.

Makes me so excited for Berchelt and Valdez and Taylor and Ramirez. Thank you!!!

[Bandman]

Meanwhile the UFC is thriving...

[Inspired]

I really wish ppv would die.

Love the subscription format - ie you buy your sports channels and boxing is part of it. Or you buy box nation and its got all the content.

Also a small bit of freeview thrown in and available on top.

boxnation relied on making deals with ppv providers in the US and airing that content in the subscription format to a smaller audience here who would otherwise not watch the ppv fight anyway.

you think boxnation alone could do what dazn are doing?
dazn can afford big fights because long term they're tapping into big data and opening to a global audience, so in time they can easily have 5m global subs for boxing alone paying $5 a month each, giving them $300m a year in revenue.
However it takes serious money to bankroll the growth phase without running into cash flow problems.

[KingGilgamesh]

Meanwhile the UFC is thriving...

A couple years ago people overstated the effect the UFC was having on boxing.

Today I think the talk of boxing possibly being on the way out are legitimate. As much as I hate the model of the UFC and how poorly it pays its fighters, it has almost completely taken over combat sports. Boxing will always be the premier sport and the one far more suited to gaining crossover, pop-culture traction but the two biggest fights of recent were between a youtuber and a basketball star and two retired HoF. There are pockets of hope like Garcia, Davis, Spence and Crawford but they're lacking in strong, active opposition. Joshua, Canelo and maybe Fury are the bigger players but, when you really think about it, I feel their audience is primarily people who follow them rather than boxing fans who cite them as their favourites. Now contrast this with the UFC...Jones, Ngannou, McGregor, Adesanya, Khabib (who I am unsure will permanently retire), Masvidal, Diaz...there are a bunch of potential crossover stars. Far more so than boxing and, pretty much every division has a bunch of strong talent. This is not the case in boxing. Lets say that Garcia lost his last fight with Campbell, his entire momentum would have gone down the drain. This very reality is now beginning to hurt boxing.

[Boxing-1013]

Everybody waiting on decisions from Pac and Canelo. You’ve got literally 3 whole divisions on standby waiting for 2 men. Add in 135 is filled with a bunch of undefeated talent and nine of them want to face each other. That’s the problem.

Basically this.....

[Boxing-1013]

Everybody waiting on decisions from Pac and Canelo. You’ve got literally 3 whole divisions on standby waiting for 2 men. Add in 135 is filled with a bunch of undefeated talent and nine of them want to face each other. That’s the problem.

This post and some others of yours have been making too much sense. You must have been studying my posting habits for a while now, and have started to put them in practice. Nice work.

[Eff Pandas]

How do the fans win the day? Boycott? I'd argue mfers have been boycotting for a decade or longer & those cats only come back to boxing once or twice a year when there is some big fight that captures the public's imagination.

If not boycotting how do fans with no skin in the game beyond their time & love of the sport change what happens outside the ring that makes no fooking sense to anyone with a reasonable mind.