Comments Thread For: The Canelo Wait: Line Forms Here...

[Letsboxhoe]

if these guys were smart, and none of them are, one of them would start calling out and fighting all of the guys that Canelo won't fight. Because I'm tried of everyone not booking fights while hoping to become Canelo's next opponent. **** is sickening and holding up 2 goddamn divisions.

Like when Charlo was his mandatory and they invented the franchise belt to save him? But yildrim is different how?

[NearHypnos]

if these guys were smart, and none of them are, one of them would start calling out and fighting all of the guys that Canelo won't fight. Because I'm tried of everyone not booking fights while hoping to become Canelo's next opponent. **** is sickening and holding up 2 goddamn divisions.

They dont realize there’s real money as being the REAL challenger. The guy people start paying for because he’s fighting the guys Canelo hasnt gotten to yet and the guy that is a REAL B side to Canelo’s A. The guy who tells everyone “This is the guy that can bring it out of Canelo.”

All these guys are okay waiting around in the shadows. Theyre fine fighters, too, so it’s why people just don’t take to them. None have that mentality of “I cant get Canelo? Let me get rid of the competition so he HAS to fight me.”

If I’m Mall, that’s my plan. People want to see GGG-Canelo 3? Not if I f uck him up. Andrade is calling out Canelo? Let me take that option from him too. Benavidez lost his belt and is on the outside looking in? Let me fight him and make myself a mandatory again and if Canelo doesnt fight me (providing he wins undisputed by then), I’ll call him a duck and say this is twice now (even if the first wasnt...still got a story.) make yourself a man’s mandatory in two divisions and he has to see you

Mall or GGG or Andrade can really make this happen and be ready by next cinco de Mayo or Mexican independence day. And the fight will be SO,SO SO much more lucrative. And if Canelo loses, that’s fine. Whoever best him becomes the target.

[landotter]

They dont realize there’s real money as being the REAL challenger. The guy people start paying for because he’s fighting the guys Canelo hasnt gotten to yet and the guy that is a REAL B side to Canelo’s A. The guy who tells everyone “This is the guy that can bring it out of Canelo.”

All these guys are okay waiting around in the shadows. Theyre fine fighters, too, so it’s why people just don’t take to them. None have that mentality of “I cant get Canelo? Let me get rid of the competition so he HAS to fight me.”

If I’m Mall, that’s my plan. People want to see GGG-Canelo 3? Not if I f uck him up. Andrade is calling out Canelo? Let me take that option from him too. Benavidez lost his belt and is on the outside looking in? Let me fight him and make myself a mandatory again and if Canelo doesnt fight me (providing he wins undisputed by then), I’ll call him a duck and say this is twice now (even if the first wasnt...still got a story.) make yourself a man’s mandatory in two divisions and he has to see you

Mall or GGG or Andrade can really make this happen and be ready by next cinco de Mayo or Mexican independence day. And the fight will be SO,SO SO much more lucrative. And if Canelo loses, that’s fine. Whoever best him becomes the target.

These are the points I wanted to make about these fighters. Alvarez took some chances and became the top dog. People can belittle the Kovalev fight all they want, no other MW did that. He packaged himself and is now one of three proven big ticket items in boxing along with Pacquiao and Joshua. There is no reason other fighters cannot make this happen for themselves. Like NearHypnos states, fight the best not in the front of the line. Take risks and reap the rewards. Otherwise you are just playing lottery numbers with your career, hoping to hit all 6.

I can tell you as a fact since I have been playing the same 6 numbers twice a week since 2006 or so, usually that is not working out very well for your retirement fund.

[DougalDylan]

.. because Canelo earned the right to chose his fights and Yildrim just goy lucky Canelo wants all the belts at 168.

So Charlo could just wait to get lucky or generate a record that gets the fans )not just PBC'ers) screaming his name, like fight Andrade to unify for a lot of cash. He doesn't have to fight anyone he's just rolling the dice like everyone else.

Wait to get lucky .... or make your own luck.

Like when Charlo was his mandatory and they invented the franchise belt to save him? But yildrim is different how?

[Nightfall]

They meant to say that the punching bag line forms here. Charlo, Andrade, Benavidez and Bivol wont ever be on that list.

[#1PaperChamp]

Canelo is the only one taking risks.

All these other guys are just sitting around playing it safe hoping they'll get the call to fight him.

And people have the gall to criticize Canelo. All his would-be opponents are fighting no-hopers. Its seriously pathetic.

[#1PaperChamp]

Like when Charlo was his mandatory and they invented the franchise belt to save him? But yildrim is different how?

They had talks in the past, GBP and Charlo, but the fight never materialized. Charlo did not want the fight.

[Griever0730]

Canelo is the only one taking risks.

All these other guys are just sitting around playing it safe hoping they'll get the call to fight him.

Sounds about right. Everybody criticizing Canelo for the way he handles his business, but he earned the right to run his ish. All these other cats should earn theirs and prove they are worthy. If they were in the same position as Canelo, they'll be handling their business the same way. They just feeling green bc they don't have that power and gotta wait in queue.

[Citizen Koba]

These are the points I wanted to make about these fighters. Alvarez took some chances and became the top dog. People can belittle the Kovalev fight all they want, no other MW did that. He packaged himself and is now one of three proven big ticket items in boxing along with Pacquiao and Joshua. There is no reason other fighters cannot make this happen for themselves. Like NearHypnos states, fight the best not in the front of the line. Take risks and reap the rewards. Otherwise you are just playing lottery numbers with your career, hoping to hit all 6.

I can tell you as a fact since I have been playing the same 6 numbers twice a week since 2006 or so, usually that is not working out very well for your retirement fund.

It's probably easier said than done though, isn't it? This idea of taking the best fights to elevate yourself above the pack?

Either a) you ain't clearly better than those around you in which case the odds are that in fighting two or three other guys in the 'queue' it's very likely you take an L which drops you out of the sweepstakes... And bear in mind even if you're willing to take that chance the other guys of your level are making the same calculation.

Or b) you are clearly - or believe you are clearly - a step ahead of the other guys competing for a Canelo slot, in which case why the **** would they fight you knowing that an L would drop them out of contention for the biggest payday they'll ever see?


Way I see its the way the sport's structured that's the problem.. The Vegas Superstar model I call it, which distorts everything around one or two particular fighters to ensure the money keeps rolling in... Thing is in the long run it's damaging to the sport as a whole to my eyes. When you got a situation where a fighter can earn more in one fight than possibly in the entire rest of their career combined it's not hard to see why they become averse to doing anything that might put that at risk. Point being getting the Wins doesn't guarantee you the shot anyway, but taking an L drastically reduced your chance of getting the call.

[James Hunt]

They meant to say that the punching bag line forms here. Charlo, Andrade, Benavidez and Bivol wont ever be on that list.

Yup. He won't fight these guys, but Bivol is just too big for him, Beterbiev too.