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  • Boxing Goat
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    #71
    Originally posted by Roadblock
    Would you like to debate resume against resume head to head, its easy for you to say it but I would blow you out the water with facts and figures if you care to debate fight for fight, CWs, timing, opponents form going into fight etc etc .

    Manny does not have the better resume and its piss easy to prove once to dig down below name value.

    Manny has been beaten 7 times, thats 10% of his cresume is losses.
    Sure:

    Manny has belts in 8 divisions and has really only lost 5 times while fighting the top of the food chain for 20 years now and is still fighting.

    HOF'ers fought: Marco Antonio Barrera (twice), Érik Morales (twice), Juan Manuel Márquez (4x), Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley (twice), Floyd Mayweather Jr., Adrien Broner and Keith Thurman.(most likely Broner and Thurman of course since they are atill active)

    40 total title fights! 40! Let that sink in for a minute.

    Also, Floyd lost to JLC and waited until almost all of his competition showed signs of aging before fighting his greatest threats including Pacquiao, who had been knocked out cold by JMM on dope already.

    Waiting for your rebuttal. I will wait anxiously.
    Last edited by Boxing Goat; 01-14-2021, 11:22 AM.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #72
      Originally posted by blowblow
      correct and that was 2015 instead of 2009-2010. after he got k.oed by marquez that's the time floyd have the confidence to get out of his shell.
      That is a nice story that isn't true and is designed to take something away from the win.

      Manny took the 4th JMM fight after turning down the $40 mil, no PPV offer from Floyd. Manny made $26-28 million, with the highest cut of the PPV revenue, to get KTFO.

      This was following earlier in the year when Manny/Bob stated Manny was healthy and ready to fight, only for him to take elective stitches when the Nevada authorities extended Floyd's jail start date so he could fight in May 2012.

      If you want to use Manny's decision to take away from Floyd's win, fine with me. That is what cancers like you do.

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        #73
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Lost to Floyd by an average score of 9-3 on the judges cards.
        If you count clinches as punches landed

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          #74
          Originally posted by LeOoze
          Manny has the better resume? List it out.
          List why not and I will consider it. Do you not know who Manny Pacquiao is and what he's done?

          I thought that was kind of a recognized thing when joining this website

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          • davef
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            #75
            No hate for manny i loved what he did to Thurman that really was impressive

            But i still consider Floyd the greater of the 2 the guy literally brushed a glove on the canvas his whole career and even in his twilight years schooled this generations p4p #1 canelo 12-0 utterly ridiculous, iron chinned with perfect conditioning he was a boxing freak of nature

            he broke the game and clearly was the best of his era i mean look at pac vs thurman clearly there was still some gas in the tank and when floyd fought him he literally shut down one of the best offensive fighters of that era, reduced him to a sparring partner
            Last edited by davef; 01-14-2021, 11:35 AM.

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              #76
              Originally posted by djtmal
              If you count clinches as punches landed
              You're entitled to disagree with the judges. You, daggum and a few others think lying about what happened in the fight makes Manny a winner.

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                #77
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                That is a nice story that isn't true and is designed to take something away from the win.

                Manny took the 4th JMM fight after turning down the $40 mil, no PPV offer from Floyd. Manny made $26-28 million, with the highest cut of the PPV revenue, to get KTFO.

                This was following earlier in the year when Manny/Bob stated Manny was healthy and ready to fight, only for him to take elective stitches when the Nevada authorities extended Floyd's jail start date so he could fight in May 2012.

                If you want to use Manny's decision to take away from Floyd's win, fine with me. That is what cancers like you do.
                this is the most nicest story i've ever read.. goodluck for making such a defensive explanation.. i know you love floyd so much.. correct me his IV fluid ok?

                floyd ducked him after he saw cotto's rearranged face.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  You're entitled to disagree with the judges. You, daggum and a few others think lying about what happened in the fight makes Manny a winner.
                  I don't have to lie about that fight. It was Floyd's strategy to hold and I saw more holding than punches landed by Floyd. 9 rounds is generous.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by blowblow
                    this is the most nicest story i've ever read.. goodluck for making such a defensive explanation.. i know you love floyd so much.. correct me his IV fluid ok?

                    floyd ducked him after he saw cotto's rearranged face.
                    The truth isn't defensive. Manny took $12 million less to fight JMM rather than fight Floyd. Why he did that? Best guess is a combination of greed and ego. Turned out to be a huge mistake on his part because he got knocked out in embarrassing fashion.

                    That has always been a hard pill for Manny fans to swallow because you guys like to hold Manny up as some paragon of integrity. No he's just a pro boxer like all the others and he makes the same decisions the others do-he wanted to get paid for what he though was an easily winnable fight.

                    The only thing you and other Manny fans have is speculation that if Manny agreed to PED testing in 09/10 or if he takes the $40 mil or if he doesn't get elective stitches maybe he beats Floyd.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by djtmal
                      I don't have to lie about that fight. It was Floyd's strategy to hold and I saw more holding than punches landed by Floyd. 9 rounds is generous.
                      Ok if you say so. You're a Manny fan. You are going to denigrate Floyd's win any way you can. I'm used to it now.

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