Comments Thread For: Hearn: It'll Take Canelo Going Completely Outside Weight Class, Comfort Zone To Get Beat

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  • millcitymauler
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    #61
    Originally posted by KillaMane26
    Or just fight the best guys at the weight class he in?
    Gee...what a novel idea? This thread is making my brain hurt.

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    • Robi13
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      #62
      Originally posted by Drew Bundini Br
      Canelo has fought 75yr old Mosely. He fought out of shape and out of boxing James Kirkland. He fought soft hitting Jacobs and beat them. He got gift decisions vs Lara and Trout. With the Mayweather fight included Canelo might of fought 8 black fighters out of 55 fights. Just saying.
      You’re “just saying” so what’s are you saying? Whats your point?

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      • AKAcronym
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        #63
        Originally posted by Silver Spear
        They may be naturally bigger guys than Canelo but I have yet to see you respond to the fact that Beterbiev does not have GGG's chin or defense. AJ is considered by many the top HW yet he is also known or accused of having a suspect chin. I fail to see your point. I never said he is supposed to stop him either. You did.
        You said "I think his power would stop Beterbiev," unless you meant "stop Beterbiev...from doing such and such." GGG has the chin he does at 160, Beterbiev has the chin he does at LHW. Can't really compare the two unless they were the same size. Beterbiev's defense isn't the greatest but the guys he's facing have more height and reach. Guys who average 75 inch reaches are generally going to have an easier time landing. Not saying Canelo couldn't land but that's not what was being said.

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        • Robi13
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          #64
          Originally posted by KillaMane26
          Or just fight the best guys at the weight class he in?
          He wants to unify 68 so is that not fighting the best? Go after undefeated champion after undefeated champion in his weight? Minus his mando of course...

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          • Boxingfanatic75
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            #65
            Originally posted by Queen_Leia
            Hearn: It'll Take Canelo Going Completely Outside Weight Class, Comfort Zone To Get Beat


            Yep, that's why all of the Alvarez haters want him to fight Beterbiev. They want him beat and they know that the current crop of boxers around his weigh can't get the job done.

            Instead of asking boxers boxing around 160-168 to hone their craft so that they can beat Alvarez...they want him to jump to 175. And if Alvarez beats Beterbiev, it won't stop there, they'll want him to jump to cruiserweight.
            Green K excellent comment

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            • Boxingfanatic75
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              #66
              Originally posted by Silver Spear
              So you want socialism? MLK was not a smart economist and he was not known for his ideas about economy etc. He was known for wanting people to be judged on their character and not color. You miss the point if you continue to focus on color.
              Don’t waste your time. I’d be shocked if most that are arguing with you have beyond an 8th grade comprehension level to truly understand what you shared.

              Minus Oldskool. He’s a vet like me and understands. I don’t agree with him but like him and do get humor from his posts.

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              • Silver Spear
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                #67
                Originally posted by AKAcronym
                You said "I think his power would stop Beterbiev," unless you meant "stop Beterbiev...from doing such and such." GGG has the chin he does at 160, Beterbiev has the chin he does at LHW. Can't really compare the two unless they were the same size. Beterbiev's defense isn't the greatest but the guys he's facing have more height and reach. Guys who average 75 inch reaches are generally going to have an easier time landing. Not saying Canelo couldn't land but that's not what was being said.
                Let us lay out the facts.

                1. Beterbiev does not have GGG's hand speed or footwork.
                2. Beterbiev does not have GGG's chin.
                3. Canelo is shorter in height and reach.
                3. Canelo's defense is far superior than any opponent Beterbiev could ever face.
                4. Beterbiev will have to watch for Canelo's counters and body shots.
                5. Canelo has no problem landing on taller/longer guys.
                6. Canelo does not need to land on Beterbiev's chin, he can attack the body and wear Beterbiev down.
                7. Beterbiev is the stronger, harder puncher.
                8. Beterbiev is the natural LHW and has been fighting at that weight longer.

                If you disagree with any of this feel free to respond with why and we can discuss.

                I still think Canelo has what it takes to stop Beterbiev if not at least beat him. If Canelo can mostly avoid GGG's power then I have no doubt he could avoid Beterbiev's for the most part.

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                • KillaMane26
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Robi13
                  He wants to unify 68 so is that not fighting the best? Go after undefeated champion after undefeated champion in his weight? Minus his mando of course...
                  He wants to..... Mean he hasn't yet.

                  He been moving up and down taking good fights cong**** but not the best guys at the weight. Outside of GGG

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #69
                    He's fought many who don't seem themselves on night. Have off nights. Nel o luck will run out soon

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                    • steeve steel
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                      #70
                      DOn't think he beats Benavidez at 168, or Andrade at 160. The first because he's too tough and strong, and the latter because of his style.

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