Comments Thread For: Hearn: It'll Take Canelo Going Completely Outside Weight Class, Comfort Zone To Get Beat

[Drew Bundini Br]

I like it... that’s a tough run

I noticed Charlo is not on the list. Smh.

[Corelone]

Lara is black James Kirkland Austin catfish

American black? I heard living in Ghana was like living in Watts, thousands of miles of Watts.

[alexjust]

Oh so you mean fighting one black fighter out his last ten bouts shows his willingness to face black fighters?

More important question: why bring race into this? Is there some kind of an unspoken expectation that fighters should fight not less than XX of black, white, Asian or Samoa fighters in the careers?

[Unidentified]

Lol, I can see Canelo being a Bridgerweight champ...

[A_State501]

I mean Canelo spars with cruisers. At 175 I think Bivol is the harder of all the possible matchups. Beterbiev's defense is not that great and he does not have GGG's chin. Bivol is a smarter boxer and has better defense in my eyes. I think Canelo gets by Bivol barely or has a very close fight but I think his power would stop Beterbiev and I do not think Beterbiev has the footwork like GGG to stay in front of Canelo nor does he have the hand speed of GGG to land meaningful shots. I have all but given up on Benavidez since he has taken his career half serious. If David can take his future serious then we shall see what happens. The older David gets (late 20's) the harder it will be for him to make 168 and out size his opponents.

Beterbiev would walk right through Canelo it's a reason he chose Kov. The same Kov that barely beat Yarde.

Canelo will never lose another fight because NOBODY will ever beat him on points and he won't fight anyone that can spark him.

His man fans will act like the Mayweather fight didn't so they can call him the best ever like *******s fans and they both overlook the PEDS those guys used.

[Rip Chudd]

He does have trouble with slick boxers and plant tries to fight that way but there are levels a plant isn’t on the floyd and Lara level of slickness add the fat that Canelo has improved immensely since the floyd and Lara fights and I don’t think I canelo has ANY issue with plant at all... if/when they fight Canelo will stop him or beat him via UD in a Not close at al type of fight

I agree, I think Canelo has improved since the Lara fight and Mayweather schooling. But he hasn't faced that style since then, so although he has improved we need to see him against that slick style again to see how he has adapted to it. He added some slickness himself. I'd like to see if Plant's gas tank holds up, if so I see it going all 12. If Canelo is serious about unifying we will see

[CmdrSoCal]

Outside of Clenela's comfort zone of cherry picking no hopers.

[Oldskoolg]

So you want socialism? MLK was not a smart economist and he was not known for his ideas about economy etc. He was known for wanting people to be judged on their character and not color. You miss the point if you continue to focus on color.

Ok so we are using MLK only when his words from individual speeches suit our stances? Was it “socialism” when the USA granted certain policies for First Nations peoples that amounted to reparations via tax breaks, land, and the rights to ******** establishments on their land? Because that happened you know. Was it “socialism” when the Italian victims of lynch mob justice resulted in reparations payments to the families after the nation of Italy threatened the USA with war? Was it “socialism” when free land in Oklahoma, Kansas, Wyoming, Montana etc was given to white settlers free of charge? And not only that, they were given training and subsidies to develop and farm the land.
Or is it just “socialism” when coloured people ask for reparations for their treatment?
It either is or it isn’t across the board.
And if you don’t believe me on any of this I would happily post you facts of all these. None of this of course is taught in regular schools so that folk like yourself can make statements of the like you did. Here we go, let’s start with this.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NNvzVCVhIM

Consequently, MLK was a HIGHLY educated man of learning. Shall I go into his educational accomplishments? Let’s not forget, he wasn’t a medical doctor....he was an academically awarded Doctor.

And on this “he didn’t focus on colour” nonsense....are you SURE??? So what were the Selma boycotts about then? In the video above, he specifies black/Negro people comparing them to what whites were getting in terms of handouts and low interest loans. I don’t have to concentrate on anything....I’m white and ***ish and still speak with a NW English accent (GM with a smidgeon of Lancastrian.) I just know it’s not my place to tell coloured folk how they should respond to racism against them....especially if I don’t have a grasp of history on the matter I’m speaking of....

[Silver Spear]

Beterbiev would walk right through Canelo it's a reason he chose Kov. The same Kov that barely beat Yarde.

Canelo will never lose another fight because NOBODY will ever beat him on points and he won't fight anyone that can spark him.

His man fans will act like the Mayweather fight didn't so they can call him the best ever like *******s fans and they both overlook the PEDS those guys used.

1. Canelo is not a LHW. What would happen if Beterbiev moved up to Cruiser and fought Usyk when Usyk was still there? Or how about Bellew?

2. Canelo fought GGG twice and everyone and their dead grandmother was saying GGG would murder Canelo.

3. Just because Canelo fought once at LHW does not mean he is comfortable at that weight and would do great.

4. Take some time to read what you wrote. Your last sentence is difficult to understand.

5. Personally I could not care less if a fighter uses PED's or illegal substances. Athletes have been doing it for decades and probably more than you think. They get paid to perform.

[Silver Spear]

Ok so we are using MLK only when his words from individual speeches suit our stances? Was it “socialism” when the USA granted certain policies for First Nations peoples that amounted to reparations via tax breaks, land, and the rights to ******** establishments on their land? Because that happened you know. Was it “socialism” when the Italian victims of lynch mob justice resulted in reparations payments to the families after the nation of Italy threatened the USA with war? Was it “socialism” when free land in Oklahoma, Kansas, Wyoming, Montana etc was given to white settlers free of charge? And not only that, they were given training and subsidies to develop and farm the land.
Or is it just “socialism” when coloured people ask for reparations for their treatment?
It either is or it isn’t across the board.
And if you don’t believe me on any of this I would happily post you facts of all these. None of this of course is taught in regular schools so that folk like yourself can make statements of the like you did. Here we go, let’s start with this.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NNvzVCVhIM

Consequently, MLK was a HIGHLY educated man of learning. Shall I go into his educational accomplishments? Let’s not forget, he wasn’t a medical doctor....he was an academically awarded Doctor.

And on this “he didn’t focus on colour” nonsense....are you SURE??? So what were the Selma boycotts about then? In the video above, he specifies black/Negro people comparing them to what whites were getting in terms of handouts and low interest loans. I don’t have to concentrate on anything....I’m white and ***ish and still speak with a NW English accent (GM with a smidgeon of Lancastrian.) I just know it’s not my place to tell coloured folk how they should respond to racism against them....especially if I don’t have a grasp of history on the matter I’m speaking of....

We are using MLK for what he was known for. There is a reason he is not known for his socialist views because they were crap them and they are still crap today. All those instances may very well be socialist examples but that still does not help your case nor did you answer my question. Socialism is never the answer and MLK was wrong if he ever thought it was.

MLK is known for giving that famous speech where he wants all of us to see each other as equal and stop looking at our skin to determine anything.

When I said he did not focus on color I meant he did not judge someone based on their color and he wanted everyone to judge each other based on merit not color. Why should color factor into anything?

All those pretty shinnies you laid out about MLK still does not prove that he was smart when it came to economics. Being a doctor means very little if the field you received your doctorate has nothing to do with what you are saying.

When you think of MLK you instantly think of the phrase "I have a dream". 100% of the world does too. Nobody ever thinks of MLK and instantly remembers "reparations because reasons".