Is Ryan on that Canelo good-good stuff

[Boxing-1013]

I knew you would do this very thing, which is why I should've stopped responding a while ago. This is a prime example of someone brutally losing an argument, but grasping at any straw they can. All were young contenders that had struggle fights on the way up, then dominated legit champions. I'm officially done here. There is zero consistency to your arguments and they make no sense. You completely ignore Mayorga, claim 'Dawson and Castillio had more experience than Garcia", but give Doug Jones complete credit for beating a 9-0 Foster that was 6 years and 20+ fights removed (Ironically the time Dawson was pro before facing Harding) from his career prime. You've also completely ignored the Foster being out of his prime point, which totally negates your Doug Jones "great win" argument.

Its also hilarious when you say "I believe Harding only lost to Jones, Johnson etc" like you didn't just spend a whole hour on boxrec thinking of ways to counter my argument (and failing miserably to do so).

The projection is strong with you

[Pretty Boy32]

Ryan is definitely juicing like his hero canelo.

Both are phaggots and cowards

[Boxing-1013]

Have you ever boxed, like at least sparring in a gym for a period of years?

I started boxing at 12, in basements and building lobbies. I was very crude and didn’t know much even though I copied what I saw on tv. I went to a boxing gym very late, too late, because I could not afford a gym membership. I grew up in poverty and had no support. Anyway the coach told me I am naturally good but that I started coming to the gym too late and if I am going to do this then it has to be a 24/7 thing. He said I can’t do anything else in my life other than boxing, if I wanna make it.

Anyway to cut to the chase, I learned a lot being in the gym with those gym ****. None of them world champions or pros or anything like that. But they worked hard and that hard work rubs off on you. I definitely learned a lot from them but ultimately I had to go work and go to school and I was not about to do boxing 24/7. If you put a young boxer in a gym with pros, some of the best pro boxers in the world, with professional trainers, good cutmen, good chefs, a promoter who was once the biggest draw in boxing you’re going to have an amazing level of learning, and very fast.

But again, you’d have to first have been in that environment in order to understand how these changes happen. It’s really not all about steroids.

The point there, as mentioned before, is that he was always in a world class environment. He has been the darling of De la Hoya and Golden Boy ever since he turned pro. He had a long and extensive amateur career. He didn't just suddenly jump into a world class environment 2 years ago.

[Boxing-1013]

It’s very easy to learn a lot in a boxing gym. It’s like a hands-on apprenticeship of boxing. You will automatically become better. The work these guys put in is ridiculous, and stuff rubs off on you. When I went in and saw what they did, it was intimidating to me. I was a guy who only put on gloves and swung on dudes as best I could, as properly that I could. I didn’t do none of that fancy training boxing gym **** did. I learned a lot in there. Going to train in a gym full of pros is probably like a gold mine.

Why do people continue to say he never was in such an environment until 2 years ago? He wasn't just plucked from obscurity.

[Boxing-1013]

Even if the OP didn’t want to acknowledge what you’re saying, the aim is to discredit Canelo and Ryan so it doesn’t matter you say

These threads are made to discredit any association to Team Canelo, not about the reality of Ryan’s performance

Not at all. Just bringing up the obvious really.

[Beercules]

I think he is.


Listen, top athletes in ANY sport (NFL NBA MLB) are doping.



And listen, if I was going to make millions of dollars for winning I would use every advantage possible.


Am I saying these guys don't hit their respective gyms hard? No. But they also use drugs to recover/enhance performance.

[QueensburyRules]

As mentioned, he changed trainers after the MD 'win' over Morales. That was in Sept of 2018. This was his 5th fight with the Reynosos.

I would expect some progression from Ryan, perhaps even in his first fight, with the Reynosos working with him. I just think he is pretty clearly on the gear too, the good stuff.

- -Y U do drugs?

Viagra too! U drug expert?

[Thuglife Nelo]

Not at all. Just bringing up the obvious really.

As u see, I got you to admit your agenda or was it rhetorical? If it’s obvious why pose a question? R u unsure? Don’t be skurrrrred!

[Boxing-1013]

I think he is.


Listen, top athletes in ANY sport (NFL NBA MLB) are doping.



And listen, if I was going to make millions of dollars for winning I would use every advantage possible.


Am I saying these guys don't hit their respective gyms hard? No. But they also use drugs to recover/enhance performance.

Yep, agreed. The money/environment etc are just too much sometimes I imagine.

[Boxing-1013]

As u see, I got you to admit your agenda or was it rhetorical? If it’s obvious why pose a question? R u unsure? Don’t be skurrrrred!

As usual, you make little sense