Is Ryan on that Canelo good-good stuff

[Boxing-1013]

I could but after your first excuse/response, I feel like I would be wasting my time. You told me to name one, I did immediately, then you accuse me of comparing Garcia to Ali. You need to start opening your mind and start having "discussions" rather than wanting to argue. Even when someone proves your ridiculous agenda wrong, as I did lol

You said all that, when you could have listed 1,2,3,4,5 other guys lol. Nice duck.

Doug Jones was a solid fighter but also a journeyman, one win vs Foster (who didn't even have 10 fights at the time and before he became champion) doesn't prove much. In fact, Fostor didn't even get the light heavyweight title till about 6 years and 20 plus fights later, and also lost once or twice after the Jones fight (till before he became champion), which means he clearly wasn't near his prime. Looks like I'm doing all the educating

Looks like you just looked stuff up on boxrec. Nice work. So I'm really continuing to educate you. Good job student.

[Boxing-1013]

Curious, can you post proof of Clenbuterol increasing one's punching power?

Literally took me 5 seconds to find this:


'Clenbuterol can be used as a weight-loss aid because it can increase a person's metabolism. As well as reducing body fat and weight, it also allows the user to retain both muscle mass and body strength at the same time'

[slicksouthpaw16]

You said all that, when you could have listed 1,2,3,4,5 other guys lol. Nice duck.



Looks like you just looked stuff up on boxrec. Nice work. So I'm really continuing to educate you. Good job student.

That was your problem, you didn't look anything up lol would've been way better had you did. No shame in getting the facts before posting Who looks better, a person willing to get facts and research? Or a prideful person with wrong info that guesses? lol

[Boxing-1013]

That was your problem, you didn't look anything up lol would've been way better had you did. No shame in getting the facts before posting Who looks better, a person willing to get facts and research? Or a prideful person with wrong info that guesses? lol

? I didn't need to look anything up. I wasn't making any claims that needed to be looked up. You on the other hand, made claims that countless fighters had done similar to what Ryan is currently doing.

You named one - I refuted that comparison, saying it is not exactly the same thing, considering Jones had just beat Bob Foster 1 year prior to his fight with Ali. In his fights bookending his Ali fight, he was fighting really well.

Morales is not an apt comparison.

I asked you to name the other countless fighters you said were similar. You don't actually know any off the top of your head, so you keep ducking.

I guess if I got owned as badly as you did, I would start talking nonsense too though.

[El_Maldito_Rey]

Literally took me 5 seconds to find this:


'Clenbuterol can be used as a weight-loss aid because it can increase a person's metabolism. As well as reducing body fat and weight, it also allows the user to retain both muscle mass and body strength at the same time'

Muscle mass doesn't equate to punching power. Not saying you're wrong, just that I never saw punching power go up with the likes of Mayweather, Jones Jr., Mosley and Holyfield who were all known PED users.

[slicksouthpaw16]

? I didn't need to look anything up. I wasn't making any claims that needed to be looked up. You on the other hand, made claims that countless fighters had done similar to what Ryan is currently doing.

You named one - I refuted that comparison, saying it is not exactly the same thing, considering Jones had just beat Bob Foster 1 year prior to his fight with Ali. In his fights bookending his Ali fight, he was fighting really well.
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And I countered that by stating the absolute fact that Foster lost two more times recently after that Jones loss, and didn't get the title till 6 years and 20 plus fights after, which puts him no where near his peak. That means a lot. You're hilariously accusing a young fighter of juicing, only for improving after 2 whole years, and that Morales fight was likely the reason he stepped up his game. It's like you're completely blind to the understanding of fighter development. how long have you been following the sport? Serious question

[Boxing-1013]

Muscle mass doesn't equate to punching power. Not saying you're wrong, just that I never saw punching power go up with the likes of Mayweather, Jones Jr., Mosley and Holyfield who were all known PED users.

I agree that it isn't just as easy as taking some PEDs and then becoming Mike Tyson. And again I think most guys are probably on something anyway.

[Boxing-1013]

And I countered that by stating the absolute fact that Foster lost two more times recently after that Jones loss, and didn't get the title till 6 years and 20 plus fights after, which puts him no where near his peak. That means a lot. You're hilariously accusing a young fighter of juicing, only for improving after 2 whole years, and that Morales fight was likely the reason he stepped up his game. It's like you're completely blind to the understanding of fighter development. how long have you been following the sport? Serious question

OK so name one of the countless others you said you had in mind?

[Boxing-1013]

And I countered that by stating the absolute fact that Foster lost two more times recently after that Jones loss, and didn't get the title till 6 years and 20 plus fights after, which puts him no where near his peak. That means a lot. You're hilariously accusing a young fighter of juicing, only for improving after 2 whole years, and that Morales fight was likely the reason he stepped up his game. It's like you're completely blind to the understanding of fighter development. how long have you been following the sport? Serious question

Nuance is not your thing.

I didn't accuse him; I asked the question.

His raising his level is not the only reason why I am su****ious; it is the speed and manner of improvement, and associations he has formed since that fight, that also make me su****ious.

Been following it a long time. No offense but I obviously understand it a lot better than you.

[RHETOЯIC]

He ain't taking meldonium.