Is Ryan on that Canelo good-good stuff

[Beercules]

Yep, agreed. The money/environment etc are just too much sometimes I imagine.

Have to be naive to think otherwise.



Even when i was in the Marine Corps guys did cycles.


Sports science has come a long way.

[aboutfkntime]

someone is still blurting out crybaby excuses to justify why his girlfriend got spanked and lost all her titles

FACT: we KNOW Canelo was clean in the rematch LMAO

[Boxing-1013]

Have to be naive to think otherwise.



Even when i was in the Marine Corps guys did cycles.


Sports science has come a long way.

Yep to deny it, is to deny reality really

[Boxing-1013]

someone is still blurting out crybaby excuses to justify why his girlfriend got spanked and lost all her titles

FACT: we KNOW Canelo was clean in the rematch LMAO

Man I literally do not care at all what people think happened in those 2 fights. I think it is obvious what happened. I know what I saw. I can't believe people honestly try to say those fights were close as far as who won. They really weren't.

I've watched hundreds of fights and scored them. Those weren't difficult ones. Canelo just got outworked in both fights, it is what it is. Who cares. Old news really.

As for him being on drugs in fight 2, he probably was, but I don't care about that either.

[aboutfkntime]

Man I literally do not care at all what people think happened in those 2 fights. I think it is obvious what happened. I know what I saw. I can't believe people honestly try to say those fights were close as far as who won. They really weren't.

I've watched hundreds of fights and scored them. Those weren't difficult ones. Canelo just got outworked in both fights, it is what it is. Who cares. Old news really.

As for him being on drugs in fight 2, he probably was, but I don't care about that either.

FACT: we KNOW that Canelo was clean in the rematch, when he spanked Hypekin and took all his titles

we know this LMAO

[Boxing-1013]

FACT: we KNOW that Canelo was clean in the rematch, when he spanked Hypekin and took all his titles

we know this LMAO

No, we don't know that at all really. We know he had Clen in his system and failed tests less than a year before that fight though. That we do know. He probably just got his cycles better timed in the rematch. Or maybe he was clean. Who knows.

[aboutfkntime]

No, we don't know that at all really. We know he had Clen in his system and failed tests less than a year before that fight though. That we do know. He probably just got his cycles better timed in the rematch. Or maybe he was clean. Who knows.

yep, we do...

"I think he’s vindicated. I think that he fought the kind of fight that his fans and the fans in general expected. He fought the kind of fight that he talked about. He made a mistake and we have to believe that he did it, he was checked twelve to fourteen times for this fight and they were all negative.

I believe that he erased the issues that he had in May. What a great champion he is. He’s the champion today.

Canelo fought the fight that he needed to fight today to win. The judges saw him win. That’s what’s important. You have to give credit to Canelo, instead of trying to say what we didn’t do. He fought a great fight."

~Abel Sanchez


you are still broken-hearted is all

let it go dude, the better man won

I told everyone what the REAL problem was in this thread

[-Kev-]

Okay let’s play this game. I don’t think Ryan Garcia is on anything, I have no evidence that he is or isn’t on something. It would be unsubstantiated and senseless to assume anything.

But

1. Anyone who thinks any boxer is on PED’s, I suggest you to hit the gym for at least 4 months or so. Go hard. You will 100% guaranteed have at least one guy spread a rumor of you being on steroids. It happened to me and I take nothing but 100% whey protein and occasionally load up on creatine. But never steroids. The first thing that is spread by dad-bods who have no work ethic in them and have not even looked at a dumbbell in a while is that you are on something. It is so hard for them to get up off their lazy asses and workout, that when someone does it and achieves amazing results due to hard work, they think it was done with the help of drugs. It has happened to me and honestly? I take it as a compliment.

2. Is Campbell not a good win or did Garcia needed steroids to beat him? Is Campbell now so good that you need steroids to beat him?

3. I’m not sure how much you guys know about steroids, but I can tell you it doesn’t turn a scrub into an all-star. I’m not entirely sure what knowledge you guys have of the different steroids and what they actually do for you. I personally know steroid users and even know how to get the stuff legit. No fake stuff, legit injections. Seen them used too, and what it can make someone do. It will not turn some lazy guy into a beast. For steroids to work properly you have to work really, really hard. It’s not the magic pill some of you are picturing. Steroids will not turn a crap fighter in a top 10 P4P fighter.

For example steroids probably can’t turn Julio Cesar Chavez Jr into a gym beast. I don’t know how else to put it: steroids aren’t magic or some form of instant transformation injection.

Before Barry Bonds was using PED’s he was already a superstar player with power, speed and great contact. PED’s did not raise Barry Bonds contact at the plate. It raised his strength in the gym and with hard work+PED’s, he became bigger and more powerful. This to go with his already superstar contact made him a home run hitting machine. Same with McGuire, Sosa, Canseco, etc. These guys were already superstars pre-PED’s. They were already on the path of HOF pre-PED’s. PED’s don’t make a scrub an ATG.

I can take PED’s all I want. If I suck at boxing at the top level, or have a sh.t chin, I will always suck. There’s nothing PED’s can do for me in terms of raising my level of skill, speed, defense, timing, or work ethic.

[aboutfkntime]

Okay let’s play this game. I don’t think Ryan Garcia is on anything, I have no evidence that he is or isn’t on something. It would be unsubstantiated and senseless to assume anything.

But

1. Anyone who thinks any boxer is on PED’s, I suggest you to hit the gym for at least 4 months or so. Go hard. You will 100% guaranteed have at least one guy spread a rumor of you being on steroids. It happened to me and I take nothing but 100% whey protein and occasionally load up on creatine. But never steroids. The first thing that is spread by dad-bods who have no work ethic in them and have not even looked at a dumbbell in a while is that you are on something. It is so hard for them to get up off their lazy asses and workout, that when someone does it and achieves amazing results due to hard work, they think it was done with the help of drugs. It has happened to me and honestly? I take it as a compliment.

2. Is Campbell not a good win or did Garcia needed steroids to beat him? Is Campbell now so good that you need steroids to beat him?

3. I’m not sure how much you guys know about steroids, but I can tell you it doesn’t turn a scrub into an all-star. I’m not entirely sure what knowledge you guys have of the different steroids and what they actually do for you. I personally know steroid users and even know how to get the stuff legit. No fake stuff, legit injections. Seen them used too, and what it can make someone do. It will not turn some lazy guy into a beast. For steroids to work properly you have to work really, really hard. It’s not the magic pill some of you are picturing. Steroids will not turn a crap fighter in a top 10 P4P fighter.

For example steroids probably can’t turn Julio Cesar Chavez Jr into a gym beast. I don’t know how else to put it: steroids aren’t magic or some form of instant transformation injection.

Before Barry Bonds was using PED’s he was already a superstar player with power, speed and great contact. PED’s did not raise Barry Bonds contact at the plate. It raised his strength in the gym and with hard work+PED’s, he became bigger and more powerful. This to go with his already superstar contact made him a home run hitting machine. Same with McGuire, Sosa, Canseco, etc. These guys were already superstars pre-PED’s. They were already on the path of HOF pre-PED’s. PED’s don’t make a scrub an ATG.

I can take PED’s all I want. If I suck at boxing at the top level, or have a sh.t chin, I will always suck. There’s nothing PED’s can do for me in terms of raising my level of skill, speed, defense, timing, or work ethic.

1) the thread starter has a very unhealthy obsession with Golovkin

2) this thread is CLEARLY, and OBVIOUSLY, making excuses to justify why he lost to Canelo


that is exactly what this thread is about, and that has been obvious right from page 1

not disagreeing with anything you said, just getting straight to the REAL point