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  • _Maxi
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    #1141
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Idiot why? Canelo said yes to a Golovkin fight this year.
    Proof?......

    End of 2019:

    "I don't want to fight Golovkin, he's not a challenge for me".

    Canelo kept refusing to fight Golovkin. For more than one year he kept stating that he wouldn't fight him and even went to court to avoid that fight. But now you claim it was Golovkin that didn't want to fight Canelo. Crazy fanboy.

    Last edited by _Maxi; 12-20-2020, 07:48 PM.

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    • b Murphington
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      #1142
      Originally posted by Boxing-1013
      I see your points, but Canelo outlanded Smith by like 120 punches. Even in fight 2, GGG outlanded Canelo by 30. I don't think things would shift in a fight 3 that much.

      Canelo looks better to me every time out though. Chalk it up to whatever you want, but I think he does improve himself almost every fight.
      I agree. Canelo seems to always be in range when he wants to punch. Good balance. Power. In a lot of ways, it’s how GGG was when he was coming onto the scene on HBO back in 2012.

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      • GelfSara
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        #1143
        Originally posted by soul_survivor
        This is the first time in years I'm giving credit to Canelo for a win (lost both times to GGG for me and most others fans, Fielding is a joke and fought a badly injured Kovalev who himself admitted he wasn't looking to win)
        Remind me--what was or were Kovalev's injury or injuries?

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          #1144
          Damn Callum Smith laid an egg in San Antonio he literally offered nothing he was fighting short for what reason he is a terrible inside fighter he should've followed the Kovalev approach with the jab and punch from the outside but he just couldn't do it. His smaller brother showed more heart than he did against Canelo and gave a better fight Liam Smith at least went out on his shield Big Smith just kept looking at the clock to see if it was over already.

          Canelo looked good but he fought someone who offered nothing in return just like the Golovkin fight my bet is Smith struggled to make weight and he will be at 175 next. I think at this point the only potential fighters who can give Canelo a decent fight are Jermall Charlo and Dmitry Bivol both have great jabs and ring generalship and both seem to take a good punch. I think Canelo wrecks Plant and BJS and I honestly thinks he beats Benavidez too because he has a tendency to pull back with his hands down and head upright but it would still be a good fight and you can guarantee Benavidez would go out swinging unlike Callum.

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            #1145
            Originally posted by _Maxi
            Proof?......

            End of 2019:

            "I don't want to fight Golovkin, he's not a challenge for me".

            Canelo kept refusing to fight Golovkin. For more than one year he kept stating that he wouldn't fight him and even went to court to avoid that fight. But now you claim it was Golovkin that didn't want to fight Canelo. Crazy fanboy.
            I notice you conveniently ignored the rest of my post. But here's your proof, crazy hater.

            From 2020:

            DAZN Can't Afford To Let Golovkin Get Out Of Fighting Canelo Next
            By Keith Idec - Bored boxing fans haven’t received much encouraging news since the COVID-19 pandemic brought this sport to a devastating standstill last month. They haven’t seen live fights since March 13, countless cards have been postponed or canceled altogether, and none of the sport’s powerbrokers can even say with any authority just what the...


            Hearn: Criticism Of Golovkin For Not Wanting To Fight Canelo Next 'Unfair'
            Eddie Hearn understands Gennadiy Golovkin’s point. Golovkin’s co-promoter believes the IBF middleweight champion has been unfairly criticized for publicly refusing to fight Canelo Alvarez next. Landing a third bout against Alvarez was one of Golovkin’s main motivations for signing a six-fight, nine-figure contract with DAZN last year, but Hearn feels Golovkin’s insistence on fighting Kamil Szeremeta next is reasonable because that was the plan DAZN devised for Golovkin when Alvarez refused last year to face him a third time.

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            • _Maxi
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              #1146
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              I notice you conveniently ignored the rest of my post. But here's your proof, crazy hater.

              From 2020:

              DAZN Can't Afford To Let Golovkin Get Out Of Fighting Canelo Next
              By Keith Idec - Bored boxing fans haven’t received much encouraging news since the COVID-19 pandemic brought this sport to a devastating standstill last month. They haven’t seen live fights since March 13, countless cards have been postponed or canceled altogether, and none of the sport’s powerbrokers can even say with any authority just what the...


              Hearn: Criticism Of Golovkin For Not Wanting To Fight Canelo Next 'Unfair'
              https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-cr...unfair--149046
              Canelo blatantly refused to fight Golovkin in 2019 stating several times that he doesn't want to ever fight GGG again, and then suddenly "wants to" in 2020 when Golovkin is about to fight another guy.

              Whatever.

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                #1147
                Originally posted by _Maxi
                Canelo blatantly refused to fight Golovkin in 2019 stating several times that he doesn't want to ever fight GGG again, and then suddenly "wants to" in 2020 when Golovkin is about to fight another guy.

                Whatever.
                So like I said, in 2020 Canelo was willing to fight Golovkin but Golovkin refused.

                Then Canelo went down the line trying to get Billy Joe Saunders, Caleb Plant, and finally settling on Callum Smith.

                I accept your surrender.

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                  #1148
                  Originally posted by Boxing Scene
                  Its painfully obvious Canelo is juicing.
                  Indeed.

                  I feel like I am sort of reliving the Lance Armstrong years with Canelo, the crucial difference being that a far higher percentage of Lance's competitors were doping as well.

                  As with Lance, I am dismayed by the public and media reaction to Canelo--with rare exceptions. Very few people want to challenge the Canelo-As-Superman fairy tale, instead they oooh and ahh over his performances, ascribing his increasingly dominant wins to (he's been a pro since 2005) a late-career surge in skill, glossing over the fact that he division-hops at will, changing his body as he pleases, that stamina has gone from deficit to strength, that his bodyfat % is lower at 168 than it was at 154, that his neck and traps are cartoonishly large, that he now gets freakishly beet-red with exertion, yada yada yada.

                  Will a boxing version of David Walsh ever pull back the curtain on this fantasy? I wonder...

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                    #1149
                    Originally posted by GelfSara
                    Indeed.

                    I feel like I am sort of reliving the Lance Armstrong years with Canelo, the crucial difference being that a far higher percentage of Lance's competitors were doping as well.

                    As with Lance, I am dismayed by the public and media reaction to Canelo--with rare exceptions. Very few people want to challenge the Canelo-As-Superman fairy tale, instead they oooh and ahh over his performances, ascribing his increasingly dominant wins to (he's been a pro since 2005) a late-career surge in skill, glossing over the fact that he division-hops at will, changing his body as he pleases, that stamina has gone from deficit to strength, that his bodyfat % is lower at 168 than it was at 154, that his neck and traps are cartoonishly large, that he now gets freakishly beet-red with exertion, yada yada yada.

                    Will a boxing version of David Walsh ever pull back the curtain on this fantasy? I wonder...
                    Canelo signed up for year-round VADA after his trace amounts of clenbuterol.

                    He has tested and proven clean more times than the vast majority of professional boxers out there.

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                    • Elastic Recoilz
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                      #1150
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      He couldn't fight Golovkin, because Golovkin chose to fight Szeremeta instead (before the IBF had even ordered a mandatory defense.)

                      So...Canelo tried to fight Golovkin. Then tried to fight Billy Joe Saunders. Then tried to fight Caleb Plant.

                      When they all couldn't happen he chose the Ring champion at 168 lbs.

                      Yet that's STILL not good enough for some of you.
                      Szeremeta fought on the undercard of Golovkin vs Sergey Dereveyenchenko and there was an agreement that the winner would defend against Szeremeta as he was the IBF number 3 fighter with positions 1 and two being vacant. Although it wasn't a forced mandatory there was a business deal done in principle. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Canelo knew this - knowing that Golovkin was tied up and with DAZN relentlessly trying to force the trilogy he attempted to make the fight knowing full well it couldn't materialize.

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