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  • techliam
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    #81
    Originally posted by mlac
    Consensus of who? the general consensus of Smith is he clearly just lost to John Ryder & while im a big fan of Ryder, he is neither world level nor a SMW. hes a blown up MW. and he battered Smith around the ring.

    Please tell me about the resume of Smith. ONE good win in his entire resume agaisnt a shot to bits Groves.

    but hes undefeated on paper doe! hes big doe!

    this is the Canelo MO, switch between the divisions looking for the weakest champion & the path of least resistence, and he STILL needs every single advantage agaisnt them. paid off officials and judges, check. PEDS. check. diva weight antics. check. giving the shortest amount of time for opponents to train for the fight while hes already known the date of his fight. check.

    Oh and dont forget his opponent must be way past prime and/or looked crap in their last fight(s) until Canelo fights them.

    If you wanna talk about Cherrypicking, then yea Canelo is the biggest cherrypicker in the entire sport.
    Find me one major publication that ranks Smith below no.1 or champion

    I’ll narrow it down for you a little bit - TBRB, RING, ESPN, Boxingscene, BN24, Boxrec, Boxing Monthly all rank him top at 168. Not sure how you’d challenge a consensus like that.. unless they’re all wrong but a random forum user mlac is right

    As for Canelo, that’s on you, I’m not talking about him. 168 is weak definitely, but Smith is consensus no.1. Weakest champion in this case is simply wrong

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    • mlac
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      #82
      Originally posted by techliam
      Find me one major publication that ranks Smith below no.1 or champion

      I’ll narrow it down for you a little bit - TBRB, RING, ESPN, Boxingscene, BN24, Boxrec, Boxing Monthly all rank him top at 168. Not sure how you’d challenge a consensus like that.. unless they’re all wrong but a random forum user mlac is right

      As for Canelo, that’s on you, I’m not talking about him. 168 is weak definitely, but Smith is consensus no.1. Weakest champion in this case is simply wrong
      Thats all well and good IF Smith beat Ryder fairly, he did not, he clearly lost and therefore in my mind is not the 168 champ, i pay no attention to robberies.

      The fact remains, Canelo is a cherrypicker.

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #83
        Originally posted by techliam
        Find me one major publication that ranks Smith below no.1 or champion

        I’ll narrow it down for you a little bit - TBRB, RING, ESPN, Boxingscene, BN24, Boxrec, Boxing Monthly all rank him top at 168. Not sure how you’d challenge a consensus like that.. unless they’re all wrong but a random forum user mlac is right

        As for Canelo, that’s on you, I’m not talking about him. 168 is weak definitely, but Smith is consensus no.1. Weakest champion in this case is simply wrong
        I don't think much of supermiddle division, but I agree Callum is the best there, and this fight is as legit as they come.

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        • Death_Adder
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          #84
          Originally posted by mlac
          Thats all well and good IF Smith beat Ryder fairly, he did not, he clearly lost and therefore in my mind is not the 168 champ, i pay no attention to robberies.

          The fact remains, Canelo is a cherrypicker.
          Facts don't care about your feelings you donkey.

          Smith is the #1 at 168.
          Plant p ussied out of the fight.
          Saunders had another fight lined up
          WBC is vacant because Benavidez is an idiot.

          There is no cherry pick.

          Tell me what wouu have been a cherry pick?

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          • Jab jab boom
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            #85
            Originally posted by Death_Adder
            Here come the usual Canelo trolls.

            This is a short notice fight, sure, but short notice to the public only.

            Smith just said in his interview he had been training for a December fight, so he's been in the gym. There will be no excuses, unlike you bunch of hating höes that already have that excuse forif Canelo wins.
            here come the usual groupies to defend canelos honor like captain save a ho. Don’t act like you don’t know what canelo is doing with his short notice tactics and stop pretending like it’s a non issue. Smith already said he didn’t know if he was getting the canelo fight until the last min. It’s one thing to be training and another to know who you’re training for. And what do you expect smith to say? To admit that he’s gonna spend these next weeks just trying to cut weight and he’s at a disadvantage? Canelo fans are either a gullible group or too blinded by love to see the truth. A main reason I’d like to see canelo lose it to shut up his pathetic fan base. You guys are like those bee hive Beyonce fans who swear you know the celebrity and come running to their defense with passionate love.

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            • BlackR0bbb
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              #86
              Originally posted by Al Broker
              “Fleeing LHW” seems to be something Bivol has copied from Canelo... the Russian who has been chasing Champs at 168 instead of making it a priority to face Beterbiev or make noise about it. Is that a Russian thing? I guess Bivol is club Canelo wanting fights at 168.. lol
              I notice that too about Bivol, but he's not a big light heavy, so I sort of understand his reasoning. I personally think he'd outbox Beterbiev, but will have trouble with his physical strength if the fight is ever on the inside. Speaking of fleeing, it's not a good look for Canelo that Andrade has now chased him out of two divisions and counting.

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              • JakeTheBoxer
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                #87
                Callum is clearly not a beast. If he was a beast, by his height, he would be 175 fighter, if not a cruiserweight.

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by BlackR0bbb
                  I notice that too about Bivol, but he's not a big light heavy, so I sort of understand his reasoning. I personally think he'd outbox Beterbiev, but will have trouble with his physical strength if the fight is ever on the inside. Speaking of fleeing, it's not a good look for Canelo that Andrade has now chased him out of two divisions and counting.
                  Nobody believes that, but Canelo has a narrative for every fighter. It’s a bad look when Black fight fans don’t instigate Charlo vs Andrade for who knows how many years... they’ve had public and verbal altercations yet still haven’t fought yet fans like you try to create the idea that Canelo NEEDS Andrade. If Andrade fights a big name and makes noise Canelo will eventually see him. Andrade should get a belt at 168. Canelo has to do all the dirty work for the sport, so I’m fine with it, P4P #1

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                  • Shadoww702
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                    you sir are clearly able to see through the groupie logic of canelo fans. They’re so transparent. They talk up anyone Canelo faces and ignore major details such as his opponents age (canelo has built his career on facing primarily 35 and older comp), canelo giving short notice for fights (as he’s doing here and did to kovalev), his consistent use of catch weights or rehydration clauses in order to put his opponent at a disadvantage, canelo benefiting from bad scorecards more than any boxer I can think of, etc. I’ll admit, on paper Canelos resume looks great, in reality, his career has been full of shrewd business decisions.
                    Smith is 30. In his prime, highly ranked. In fact he's Ring #1. U gonna blame that on Oscar and GB??

                    Man your a fkn JOKE

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                    • Shadoww702
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                      I thought you learned a long time ago not to dare comment on my posts. I mean, what kind of a man agrees to spar someone, bails the day before the scheduled meet up, comes up with 1000 excuses instead of just acknowledging that he’s a puss ass coward, yet still has the audacity to talk tough on here? You have no dignity and are a shame to Mexicans everywhere. You’re along the lines of a Chavez jr , a cross dressing phag who bails when things get real.
                      U on the no fly list? Can't travel because your po??

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