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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #171
    Originally posted by BlackR0bbb
    Why would Bud call out a jr. middleweight when he's waiting for Errol to find his nuts at 147?
    Why would why would... you ask questions in doubting a fighter to then ask questions again when it’s answered.

    Bud and Errol will never reach the level of greatness like SRL, Hagler or Hearns. They could easily bulk up to fight at 160 too. Whether they can compete there is their problem. If people want to say that Floyd didn’t gain weight at 154 coming from 130 means Errol and Bud would be filled on the scale themselves at the scale above 147.

    Both Bud and Errol are just afraid to compete at higher weights. That’s fine. The P4P list should be reserved for others too

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    • BlackR0bbb
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      #172
      Originally posted by Al Broker
      Why would why would... you ask questions in doubting a fighter to then ask questions again when it’s answered.

      Bud and Errol will never reach the level of greatness like SRL, Hagler or Hearns. They could easily bulk up to fight at 160 too. Whether they can compete there is their problem. If people want to say that Floyd didn’t gain weight at 154 coming from 130 means Errol and Bud would be filled on the scale themselves at the scale above 147.

      Both Bud and Errol are just afraid to compete at higher weights. That’s fine. The P4P list should be reserved for others too
      Errol has been at 147 his entire career and is a big welterweight. Crawford cleaned out two divisions prior to getting to welterweight, but you feel he should move up yet again? Does that make any sense? Marvin Hagler fought at middleweight his entire career.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #173
        Originally posted by BlackR0bbb
        Errol has been at 147 his entire career and is a big welterweight. Crawford cleaned out two divisions prior to getting to welterweight, but you feel he should move up yet again? Does that make any sense? Marvin Hagler fought at middleweight his entire career.
        You don't understand boxing at all. The terms used for ''boxing (there) their whole career'' when the fact of the matter is they rehydrate 15lbs on fight night like GGG as of late means they're not daring to be great, just exploiting situations for their own marketability. At the end of the day there are plenty of more boxers doing better things. Spence vs Crawford is simply to see who the best ''welterweight is'' ok... duh, we get that. Canelo could also have said he wanted to stay at 160 but more expected of him. GGG doesn't even care about all the belts anymore and is coasting by staying at 160 because he doesn't want to seek challenges. Crawford gets a pass because he at least did heavy draining starting at 135. His weigh ins in those days were painful to see, but he did it, so he gets a slight pass. However, Crawford is way bigger than Floyd, and Floyd attempted 154 3 times and won, so all this Crawford and Spence at 147 is all soft talk by fans and industry because that's as good as it gets.

        Like I said, there are better boxers in the sport trying to take bigger fights. FFS, Crawford and Spence could still meet at 154.

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        • BlackR0bbb
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          #174
          Originally posted by Al Broker
          You don't understand boxing at all. The terms used for ''boxing (there) their whole career'' when the fact of the matter is they rehydrate 15lbs on fight night like GGG as of late means they're not daring to be great, just exploiting situations for their own marketability. At the end of the day there are plenty of more boxers doing better things. Spence vs Crawford is simply to see who the best ''welterweight is'' ok... duh, we get that. Canelo could also have said he wanted to stay at 160 but more expected of him. GGG doesn't even care about all the belts anymore and is coasting by staying at 160 because he doesn't want to seek challenges. Crawford gets a pass because he at least did heavy draining starting at 135. His weigh ins in those days were painful to see, but he did it, so he gets a slight pass. However, Crawford is way bigger than Floyd, and Floyd attempted 154 3 times and won, so all this Crawford and Spence at 147 is all soft talk by fans and industry because that's as good as it gets.

          Like I said, there are better boxers in the sport trying to take bigger fights. FFS, Crawford and Spence could still meet at 154.
          You're wrong. Crawford is not way bigger than Floyd. Both are 5'8". Crawford may seem bigger because he has a wrestling background and is very strong physically, but he and Floyd are the same size. You're right about GGG, but we've known this about him when he refused to move up to face Ward. You're comparing a man in his third weight class (Crawford) with one who remained in one (Spence) his entire career. No comparison. If Bud never sees 154, no one will complain because he's already put in his work. We deserve to see Crawford-Spence now. Let's stop the deflection and goalpost moving.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #175
            Originally posted by BlackR0bbb
            You're wrong. Crawford is not way bigger than Floyd.

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            • BlackR0bbb
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              #176
              Originally posted by Al Broker
              Crawford has on hunting boots with thick heels. Floyd has on tennis shoes. Be real.

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              • JakeTheBoxer
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                #177
                Boxrec says Mayweather 5′ 8″ , Crawford 5′ 8″ . Just the same.

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                • MONGOOSE66
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                  #178
                  The only people who think he made a mistake are from England.
                  Canelo’s ring generalship & IQ is far above whats his name?

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                  • whollisboxing
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by frantic fighter
                    Canelo will be just fine. If Smith having a lackluster skirmish with Ryder wasn't bad enough. He got the call to fight Canelo four weeks out from the fight. No way a guy that big has an easy cut, look for him to be drained.
                    Callum Smith has been on a short list of potential Canelo opponents for months so it's not like he's just now getting up off his couch

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