Why do Canelo and PBC fans hate Crawford so much

[Ochoa780]

Simple the hate doesnt come from one fanbase or another. I believe most boxing fans, true boxing fans, arent network fans or promotional company fans.

His hate comes from having a mediocre resume, showing a lot of promise and skill but proclaiming you're the best in the sport.

I dont hate him, would love to see him take on the top dogs, but the p4p best talk is annoying and nonsense.

[STREET CLEANER]

Arum gave him a deal he couldn't refuse, because he did not want him to go elsewhere.

That same deal that Crawford could not refuse, has Bob bitter now.

Why not rob a bank if the bank is welcoming you to rob it?

You can't tell me that it would have made sense for Crawford to go to PBC and leave all that Top Rank money on the table.

Look at Pacquiao's purses when he was Top Rank and look at his purses with Haymon.

Pac was the bait but everybody leaves Arum. Crawford has made money without fighting top guys but has pigeon holed himself.

Don't get me wrong I hate the boxing politics but it is what it is.

[Madison Boxing]

people dont hate him they just want him to fight someone with a pulse

[Lupara]

OP may be a regular on Boxing Twitter - where this kind of thing is common

[JakeTheBoxer]

I don`t hate him, I want him to prove me he is the best 147 fighter . beating guys he beat proves ****.

[whollisboxing]

I’m a fan of Bud and Canelo. I s hit on em both also. Also a fan of the other WWs over at PBC and was ultra critical of Spence even after dispatching Brook and fighting Mikey. I called Thurman the man until he showed he wasn’t. Spence has since fought Porter and is fighting Danny now. No need for Thurman anymore so he’s basically handling his business with two (and a half if we count a post GGG career altering beating of Kell Brook) of the top dogs at 47.

You can be a borderline nut hugger if Bud like I am and still call it like it is. The man 100% knew what he was doing calling dudes out and then goes on and signs with Top Rank. If *we* knew the fights weren’t getting made due to the network/promotional disputes, you think he didn’t? He 10000% chose easy money over risky bigger money (which he’d have had to fight and beat legitimate name fighters to increase his earning potential like Spence has). I’m not mad at it, he set his family up and earned his money. But he’s also earned the criticism of fighters and fans alike.

People are looking at Bud almost like how some looked at Lucien Bute (in a way) who wasn’t in the super 6 and then the first top dog from the super 6 (Froch) who got ahold of him beat the living f uck out of him.


You got one guy in an enclosure being hand fed in Bud and the other lions are out there in the wild fighting each other.

You can be a fan of Bud and still be like “Wake me up when he gets even a top 5 WW.”

Kell Brook wasnt even a top 5 guy at 54...

The only knock on Canelo is that he can’t fight more than one guy at once. For every good fight he gives us, there’s 3 more we want to see him in.

Same for Spence now. He’s going on his third top 5 WW in the last few years.

Thurman has fought Danny, Pacquiao, Porter.

Porter has fought Spence, Danny, and Thurman.

Danny has fought Porter and Thurman.

Pacquiao needs not be mentioned.

Mind you this is all in the last few years.

Bud has had like 4-5 fights at WW. Never against a top dog.

Simple

That's a fair breakdown and hopefully we get to see Bud against a top guy at 147 before it's too late. Even somebody like Yordenis Ugas would be a solid step up.

[Boxing-1013]

Gamboa wasn’t a good win. Postol was a damn good win. Only knock on Postol was that he beat the beloved people’s champ in Lucas Matthysse. Had he beat Danny people would have jumped all over him and showered him with endless praise and hype. Postol borders on being a great win. As good as he could get at the division at least

And you are in a large minority of people if you think GGG won the second fight. It wasn’t even close enough for debate in terms of winner clarity imo. Violently competitive, but Canelo to me definitely won the fight. I mean not just to me...he officially won but you know what I mean. And it’s not always that easy to get fights as a super a side like Canelo. Charlo passed at 10 mil, Plant, BJS, i think at one point Callum also passed.

Bud is a pretty clear A side outside of Spence and Pacquiao, as well. The problem is he made the tactical decision to make himself 100% unavailable to the ENTIRE too of the division. It’s just that simple. I wouldn’t say Bud is ducking anyone. He’s not afraid at all. But it doesn’t mean he was ever that interested in making those fights. There is no one he could have gotten while with TR that would have derailed his career in a way that by the time he was done with his contract that hed lose these opportunities.
He picked the easy money. And there’s nothing wrong with that. But let’s not pretend he didn’t. That’s the the thing.

It isnt his fault 140 was in a transitional period. Or that 135 was a few years away from the good guys outgrowing their previous divisions into their more natural ones and the young guys making the rounds up the ranks.

But 147 is. I *suspect* he’s likely the best man there. But Spence isn’t leaving it to su****ion. One man is dreaming it the other one is proving it.

How is Gamboa not a good win? Undefeated at that time and was only 32 then. Has shown himself to be a fine fighter at or around that weight.

Man I feel like most people I know who are somewhat neutral gave both fights to GGG. Some say the 2nd one was closer but in truth I think it was the same as the first. Canelo is in some rounds but he gives away too many with his lack of activity.

Bud will need to force bigger fights going forward. He would be better served forcing a fight at 154 vs a solid guy imo, rather than continuing to face the solid guys he is facing at 147. It's either face a PBC guy or move up.

[KTFOKING]

How is Gamboa not a good win? Undefeated at that time and was only 32 then. Has shown himself to be a fine fighter at or around that weight.

Man I feel like most people I know who are somewhat neutral gave both fights to GGG. Some say the 2nd one was closer but in truth I think it was the same as the first. Canelo is in some rounds but he gives away too many with his lack of activity.

Bud will need to force bigger fights going forward. He would be better served forcing a fight at 154 vs a solid guy imo, rather than continuing to face the solid guys he is facing at 147. It's either face a PBC guy or move up.

Damn near all the top 154 pounders are also PBC fighters. So before getting to them, he needs to take care of the likes of Porter, Spence etc.

[Boxing-1013]

37 fights in with zero marquee fights. He isn’t **** on enough. Same goes for Wilder, the Charlos, Davis etc all these protected American paper champs getting crowned without doing anything.

I bet you are from the UK. Oh the irony lol

Canelo fan here; huge fan of TC. Both have claims to that P4P #1 spot, but, as good as Bud is, Canelo's resume remains tops.

That's fair

Bullshіt.

The guy started his career at 135lbs. and is now at 147lbs.

At 140lbs., he became undisputed.

If he didn't fight anyone good, they didn't want to fight him.

If he is a member of a promotional company and the majority of the other top fighters at the weight he competes at are in a different promotional company, and the two companies don't do business with each other, how is it him that's hiding?

It's the two heads of the promotional companies being stubborn and not wanting to sacrifice their top guys to a fighter who is not part of their promotional company.

They would much rather build another fighter that is in their stable and cause their top dog to lose to that fighter than to just let the other company run away with the victory and the fans.

It's about leverage. So to put the blame on the fighters doesn't make sense.

Great posts man

Damn near all the top 154 pounders are also PBC fighters. So before getting to them, he needs to take care of the likes of Porter, Spence etc.

Yeah now that I think of it, every guy I think of at 154 seems like he is with PBC too.

Funny you say that, I thought if Brook made it 12 rounds and won 4 or 5 rounds, he would may have gotten the decision.

But see, what good does it do to screw him at this point? He's not going to re-sign so just let him go.

Btw, I made a bold prediction by end of next year if he fights Ennis, I am actually rolling with the youngster. May be asinine but this is why Spence vs Crawford needs to happen ASAP. Those two young killers in Ennis and Ortiz Jr are going to be HUGE problems to these guys.

From what little I've seen of Ortiz and Boots, I like both.

Do you think Spence will be 100% after his wreck? I really wanted to see that fight before. But now am happy Spence will at least have 1 or 2 fights before that one happens. I want to see where his level is now. I fear the worst.

Either way we need TC vs Porter/Garcia/Spence/Pac/Thurman next? That is I think the list at 154. I'd even take Ugas I guess.

[Boxing-1013]

people dont hate him they just want him to fight someone with a pulse

So you aren't aware of his resume below 147 then?