Why do Canelo and PBC fans hate Crawford so much

[Boxing-1013]

Oh got it, I wasn't on here at that time but the betting odds were actually pretty high in favor of Crawford. He was a 6/1 to 7/1 favorite. But a lot of people thought Postol could give Crawford fits and after two rounds it was a one sided beat down.

I think both will part ways amicably. Crawford has to respect what TR has done for him but it is time to move on. There is no point of going to the media and leaking stuff against each other or just flat out attacking each other.

I think Bob will kill him first lol. Or at least give him a 'loss'

[NearHypnos]

It's always easier to make the big fights when you are the Super A side like Canelo was. As we've seen, you can twist things into your advantage in those fights, and what can the opponent do? Nothing. They have to do what the A-side wants and take the fight. Canelo put a weight clause on Rocky Fielding for God's sake.

I had Canelo beating Lara 7-5, but he lost twice to GGG on my card. I don't see the argument otherwise tbh. But saying there is only one asterisk on Canelo's ledger is silly.

Bud's resume is in large part below 147. At 147 it has been OK, not exceptional. Postol and Gamboa were really good wins. He has some other good wins below 147 as well.

Of course Spence has a better resume at 147. But just as obviously, Crawford has a better overall resume.

Gamboa wasn’t a good win. Postol was a damn good win. Only knock on Postol was that he beat the beloved people’s champ in Lucas Matthysse. Had he beat Danny people would have jumped all over him and showered him with endless praise and hype. Postol borders on being a great win. As good as he could get at the division at least

And you are in a large minority of people if you think GGG won the second fight. It wasn’t even close enough for debate in terms of winner clarity imo. Violently competitive, but Canelo to me definitely won the fight. I mean not just to me...he officially won but you know what I mean. And it’s not always that easy to get fights as a super a side like Canelo. Charlo passed at 10 mil, Plant, BJS, i think at one point Callum also passed.

Bud is a pretty clear A side outside of Spence and Pacquiao, as well. The problem is he made the tactical decision to make himself 100% unavailable to the ENTIRE too of the division. It’s just that simple. I wouldn’t say Bud is ducking anyone. He’s not afraid at all. But it doesn’t mean he was ever that interested in making those fights. There is no one he could have gotten while with TR that would have derailed his career in a way that by the time he was done with his contract that hed lose these opportunities.
He picked the easy money. And there’s nothing wrong with that. But let’s not pretend he didn’t. That’s the the thing.

It isnt his fault 140 was in a transitional period. Or that 135 was a few years away from the good guys outgrowing their previous divisions into their more natural ones and the young guys making the rounds up the ranks.

But 147 is. I *suspect* he’s likely the best man there. But Spence isn’t leaving it to su****ion. One man is dreaming it the other one is proving it.

[CharlieStewart]

37 fights in with zero marquee fights. He isn’t **** on enough. Same goes for Wilder, the Charlos, Davis etc all these protected American paper champs getting crowned without doing anything.

[NachoMan]

I mean, I get it in a way. He is the competition so you make him your enemy and slight him as needed.

But I don't really understand why it is so important.

I don't know if I've ever seen one Canelo fan who is also a fan in some way of Crawford.

And then PBC guys are off on him too.

Seems like those 2 groups will never give the guy credit regardless of what he does. I've never seen them say a decent thing about the guy really. Everything is 'he is the worst guy ever.'

Just wondering if they know how silly they look to everyone else?

Canelo fan here; huge fan of TC. Both have claims to that P4P #1 spot, but, as good as Bud is, Canelo's resume remains tops.

[KTFOKING]

I think Bob will kill him first lol. Or at least give him a 'loss'

Funny you say that, I thought if Brook made it 12 rounds and won 4 or 5 rounds, he would may have gotten the decision.

But see, what good does it do to screw him at this point? He's not going to re-sign so just let him go.

Btw, I made a bold prediction by end of next year if he fights Ennis, I am actually rolling with the youngster. May be asinine but this is why Spence vs Crawford needs to happen ASAP. Those two young killers in Ennis and Ortiz Jr are going to be HUGE problems to these guys.

[RHETOЯIC]

37 fights in with zero marquee fights. He isn’t **** on enough. Same goes for Wilder, the Charlos, Davis etc all these protected American paper champs getting crowned without doing anything.

Bullshіt.

The guy started his career at 135lbs. and is now at 147lbs.

At 140lbs., he became undisputed.

If he didn't fight anyone good, they didn't want to fight him.

[STREET CLEANER]

I am a boxing fan, not a network or promotional company fan.

Crawford talks like he is the best thing that has ever happened to boxing and he has not faced not even one top WW. He hides behind his promotional company and has express that he only wants to get paid.

Don't hate the guy but if you are going to talk like that have some substance behind it. Dropping names and then fighting a different fighter because it makes financial sense is not a way to a legacy.

Wasted prime years and talent.

[RHETOЯIC]

I am a boxing fan, not a network or promotional company fan.

Crawford talks like he is the best thing that has ever happened to boxing and he has not faced not even one top WW. He hides behind his promotional company and has express that he only wants to get paid.

Don't hate the guy but if you are going to talk like that have some substance behind it. Dropping names and then fighting a different fighter because it makes financial sense is not a way to a legacy.

Wasted prime years and talent.

If he is a member of a promotional company and the majority of the other top fighters at the weight he competes at are in a different promotional company, and the two companies don't do business with each other, how is it him that's hiding?

It's the two heads of the promotional companies being stubborn and not wanting to sacrifice their top guys to a fighter who is not part of their promotional company.

They would much rather build another fighter that is in their stable and cause their top dog to lose to that fighter than to just let the other company run away with the victory and the fans.

It's about leverage. So to put the blame on the fighters doesn't make sense.

[STREET CLEANER]

If he is a member of a promotional company and the majority of the other top fighters at the weight he competes at are in a different promotional company, and the two companies don't do business with each other, how is it him that's hiding?

It's the two heads of the promotional companies being stubborn and not wanting to sacrifice their top guys to a fighter who is not part of their promotional company.

They would much rather build another fighter that is in their stable and cause their top dog to lose to that fighter than to just let the other company run away with the victory and the fans.

It's about leverage. So to put the blame on the fighters doesn't make sense.

He had a chance not to resign with TR but he did.

Historically Arum has always have been difficult to deal with.

[RHETOЯIC]

He had a chance not to resign with TR but he did.

Historically Arum has always have been difficult to deal with.

Arum gave him a deal he couldn't refuse, because he did not want him to go elsewhere.

That same deal that Crawford could not refuse, has Bob bitter now.

Why not rob a bank if the bank is welcoming you to rob it?

You can't tell me that it would have made sense for Crawford to go to PBC and leave all that Top Rank money on the table.

Look at Pacquiao's purses when he was Top Rank and look at his purses with Haymon.