Luis Ortiz vs Charles Martin

[REDEEMER]

I’m quite amazed the number of people on here back in Martin to win or be competitive at least in one breadth on then on other threads dismiss joshuas resume as not taking on the best. Martin is probably down at about 7/8 toughens for AJ while Ortiz is the best win for wilder.

For that reason if this fight does happen we really need Ortiz to completely destroy Martin otherwise wilders record is completely tarnished, and frankly it’s better for boxing that isn’t the case.

For what it’s worth I think Ortiz would completely outbox him and eventually too him mid to late rounds in my opinion.

AJs bottom wins aren’t relevant to Wilder . Breazeale is also a bottom win for AJ and one of Wilders better ones .

Martin should win because it’s 2021 ,has improved while Ortiz has clearly declined . We also don’t know how Ortiz reacts to a bigger southpaw ? Will his wind hold up ? Martin has a hard nosed training facility to filled with top guys like possibly Ruiz who would prepare him and Manny Robles as his trainer so he’s used to training for southpaw when he had Breazeale .

[rickJen]

charles martin is crap.
why did al get rid of yoka and ajagba? makes no sense at all.

It's better than another Flores-level opponent.
Would you accept Luis vs Kownacki?
How about Ortiz vs Breazeale?
Or Ortiz vs Ruiz, Ortiz vs Washington, Ortiz vs Arreola?
All are available and easy to be made as they are all fellow PBC fighters.

[Kezzer]

It's better than another Flores-level opponent.
Would you accept Luis vs Kownacki?
How about Ortiz vs Breazeale?
Or Ortiz vs Ruiz, Ortiz vs Washington, Ortiz vs Arreola?
All are available and easy to be made as they are all fellow PBC fighters.

To be honest within the pandemic bay of those fights are decent.
But Clearly Ruiz or Brezeale would be better options of those

[rickJen]

Frankly, I really don't know what these PBC top heavyweights are thinking.
Beating Ortiz will turn them into instant stars. Wilder can attest to it.

Have media people reached out to anyone of them?
Why PBC fighters are not calling out Ortiz?

Or is Ortiz just naturally avoids these fights until he gets another
multi-million dollar offer from Hearn?

[Inspired]

It's better than another Flores-level opponent.
Would you accept Luis vs Kownacki?
How about Ortiz vs Breazeale?
Or Ortiz vs Ruiz, Ortiz vs Washington, Ortiz vs Arreola?
All are available and easy to be made as they are all fellow PBC fighters.

ortiz vs ruiz and of course wilder vs ruiz are the ones we need to see
why on earth did al haymon let go of tony yoka and ajagba?
he also had joe joyce fighting under his stable through schaeffer, but they let go of those guys.
just those 5 would give us 2-3 yrs of ppv worthy fights.

pbc has let go of chris eubank jr too...
was there anything wrong with jermall charlo vs chris eubank jr?
bizarre stuff.

[rickJen]

Anyone knows who Ortiz is fighting next now that
we're hearing Martin is in talks with Wilder's managers?

Why is he taking very long break as if he's 25 years old
and it merely took him a few steps in his last fight with a bum
like he's dancing with the stars?

[REDEEMER]

Anyone knows who Ortiz is fighting next now that
we're hearing Martin is in talks with Wilder's managers?

Why is he taking very long break as if he's 25 years old
and it merely took him a few steps in his last fight with a bum
like he's dancing with the stars?

He’s ranked 3 in the WBC . Unless the WBC stops protecting him now that Wilders beltless,he will just stay on the sidelines and wait to try and sneak in one more title shot and claim he’s being avoided because he’s not receiving offers . Ha

It’s actually smart considering he hasn’t looked good at all ,why risk losing if he’s going to be a top 3 for nothing over there . He must have naked pictures of Mauricio.

[rickJen]

I don't mind seeing Ortiz vs Kownacki.
Far better than another Flores-level opponent.

[rickJen]

Any interest in this fight happening at all?

[rickJen]

Is Luis Ortiz ducking Charles Martin?