Luis Ortiz vs Charles Martin

[techliam]

Ortiz needs to fight someone with a pulse, not a Charles Martin... he needs momentum not more resume padding

Martin is like a comeback opponent for Wilder. Just to shake off the rust before he’s in contention again

[DaNeutral.]

Come on Ladies and Gentlemen, We know exactly why Ortiz gets matched against nobodies. The PBC has pushed him as the monster Bogeyman that only Wilder is good enough to defeat or brave enough to defeat.

They match him half decent and anybody half decent beats him then Wilders wins don't have half as much impact as the PBC have painted them as.

Luis Ortiz is nothing but a pawn in the PBC'S game of heavyweight chess. They couldn't care less about Ortiz at the PBC it's all about paining Wilder up cuz they see Wilder as a PPV seller.

[REDEEMER]

So why are PBC fans not interested in this fight?
It's easy to make, yet I don't see them demanding this fight.

They know how easy AJ would always win against Martin .Martin vs Ortiz is a 50/50 fight . In their heads it’s a competition between networks ,they put dumb stuff over good matches .

[maguirre]

So why are PBC fans not interested in this fight?
It's easy to make, yet I don't see them demanding this fight.

Because they don't like it when the ball in on PBC's court.

There's no non-PBC name or entity they can direct the blame onto here. If this is TR, GBP, Hearn, DAZN, they'd be hovering like hungry vultures over an animal carcass, "These people are ducking Ortiz!" "Arum is a snake!"

[rickJen]

Ortiz needs to fight someone with a pulse, not a Charles Martin... he needs momentum not more resume padding

Martin is like a comeback opponent for Wilder. Just to shake off the rust before he’s in contention again

Who is on your mind for Ortiz's next fight?
Bearing in mind that fights are not easy to make
between competing promoters/networks.

[techliam]

Who is on your mind for Ortiz's next fight?
Bearing in mind that fights are not easy to make
between competing promoters/networks.

His next fight, I’m not sure. Not really up to date with where everyone is. But look at this recent pool of fighters (I know some aren’t available)

Ruiz, Helenius, Kownacki, Joyce, Parker, Povetkin, Whyte, Hunter, Yoka

Fury, Joshua, Usyk are 100% not happening so won’t include them

I wouldn’t even mind a Gassiev fight given he’s the former Cruiserweight runner up. Since 2015 Ortiz has only two noteworthy opponents - Wilder and Jennings, and was KO’d by one twice. It needs calling out more. Like I said, Ortiz needs momentum to secure another title shot and he won’t get that from the Flores’ and Martin’s of the world

[Marchegiano]

Come on Ladies and Gentlemen, We know exactly why Ortiz gets matched against nobodies. The PBC has pushed him as the monster Bogeyman that only Wilder is good enough to defeat or brave enough to defeat.

They match him half decent and anybody half decent beats him then Wilders wins don't have half as much impact as the PBC have painted them as.

Luis Ortiz is nothing but a pawn in the PBC'S game of heavyweight chess. They couldn't care less about Ortiz at the PBC it's all about paining Wilder up cuz they see Wilder as a PPV seller.

That's some planning then. Ortiz enjoyed high ranking before Wilder and was labeled most avoided HW years before fighting Wilder.

Funny, y'all laugh at his half ass conspiracy while you spit out five a day yourself.

[DaNeutral.]

That's some planning then. Ortiz enjoyed high ranking before Wilder and was labeled most avoided HW years before fighting Wilder.

Funny, y'all laugh at his half ass conspiracy while you spit out five a day yourself.

When have they pushed Ortiz to do anything of note other than putting him in with Wilder? Who did he face last time out? He is a pawn, he isn't a PPV star he is a tool to be used by Haymon.

[Marchegiano]

When have they pushed Ortiz to do anything of note other than putting him in with Wilder? Who did he face last time out? He is a pawn, he isn't a PPV star he is a tool to be used by Haymon.

I already answered this....before Wilder was in the picture Ortiz was being pushed. Ortiz's media push predates Wilder's. Ortiz's top ranking predates Wilder's. Ortiz being labeled avoided predates Wilder.

[Laligalaliga]

Because they don't like it when the ball in on PBC's court.

There's no non-PBC name or entity they can direct the blame onto here. If this is TR, GBP, Hearn, DAZN, they'd be hovering like hungry vultures over an animal carcass, "These people are ducking Ortiz!" "Arum is a snake!"

Lol..... Exactly. You know these guys too well. It will be an in-house fight and they are confused who to blame.