Luis Ortiz vs Charles Martin
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Ortiz cant force anybody to fight him. I dont see anybody pursuing that fight and being 100% serious.Comment
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Charles Martin would be Ortiz hardest opponent coming in 2021 . I’d favor Martin if he has a full training camp . Ortiz was able to win every round against Wilder not so sure he could do that here ,this would be a hard fight for both and Ortiz hasn’t had a boogeyman performance against anyone with a live pulse in years .Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-13-2021, 07:26 PM.Comment
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I wouldnt count Martin out at all. Infact i might even pick him to win.
Ortiz is the most overrated HW in the past decade.Comment
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Sure Ortiz can just stay silent and wait for fighters to call him out and not force them ? Ha
Boxing doesn’t work like this , serious fighters seeking opponents put in offers or try and get fights they don’t wait and claim no one wants to fight them . Ortiz is able to do this because for some oddball reason the WBC still ranks him high where he’s near the top .
They need to make him fight a real opponent or take away his ranking .He’s literally done nothing to get title shots or stay where he’s at number 3 in 2021 ? How? Ha
People complaining about Martin fighting him is also out there,it would be one of his best opponents on his entire resume ,not sure what they would rather see Ortiz fight guys like his last fight ? HaLast edited by REDEEMER; 01-13-2021, 07:35 PM.Comment
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“I don't hardly remember if anyone ducked him or not”I'm trying to figure out what the **** this has to do with anything DaNatural and I were talking about.
Never said I endorsed the media hype around Ortiz. He understood that and somehow you've read our convo and missed it....let me be clear, because you are ******.
I'm hispanic, I read spanish boxing news. We have just a ****load of south of the boarder hypejobs. I always thought Ortiz was one and even if I wanted to change my attitude for the Wilder fights my history had me dug in. Stop assuming ****. Read.
Isn’t that what I just answered in my response to you ,burn out ? Isn’t that something to do what you said and explained it to you ? HaComment
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I’m quite amazed the number of people on here backing Martin to win or be competitive at least in one breath and then on other threads dismiss joshuas resume as not taking on the best. Martin is probably down at about 7/8 toughens for AJ while Ortiz is the best win for wilder.
For that reason if this fight does happen we really need Ortiz to completely destroy Martin otherwise wilders record is completely tarnished, and frankly it’s better for boxing that isn’t the case.
For what it’s worth I think Ortiz would completely outbox him and eventually stop him mid to late rounds in my opinion.Last edited by Kezzer; 01-13-2021, 08:30 PM.Comment
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