Sorry, but this heavyweight era is pretty bad

[Butt stuff]

And yes the division only made a comeback because of the UK/Hearn/AJ. Not even Fury beating Wlad made much of a fanfare, it was all Hearn and AJ. People like Ruiz and Parker were considered fodder with people only recognising Fury, Wlad and AJ as he was gaining experience.

I remember the good old days. Notice how all of the guys we consider 'contenders' now were nothing before facing AJ, but now they are considered 'world class'. That's promotion for you, sorta like how everyone Loma faced was hyped up. "He beat THE Nicholas Walters. THE Jason Sosa". Lots of boxers only have 'somebodies' on their resume because they were made out to be "somebodies" to build up a fight, so in reality they are writing history as it happens.

To be fair to Loma, Walters was out axeing people left right and centre. Look what he did to Donaire. He made a name for himself in his own right.

[OnlytheTruth]

I agree with you, we are in some transition.

You have Fury and Joshua as champs, Wilder as ex champ, Usyk as contender. The rest contenders are old or have already lost to champ. Future contenders are still waited to step up.

Yeah, we need a gap to open up once the old boys retire.

The best fights have been pushed back by Covid and we are left with Povetkin, Ortiz, Chisora (who all need to retire) being terrible PPV draws to keep it all ticking over.

Can see Joshua v Pulev being pushed now that Whyte v Povetkin has. There isn't any pressure on someone fighting Fury either because of the UK lockdown.

Joyce v Dubois isn't exactly going to set the boxing world on fire but at least it isn't utter garbage.

[Scopedog]

You goons will never be satisfied, will you. There could be a new race of genetically engineered supermen made to be superior boxers on the genetic level made, and they could put on a series of fights between themselves that puts the sports' golden eras to shame and dudes would still moan about it somehow

[786]

It's great now. Most of the Wlad reign was boring, the 90's ridiculously overrated, but now, it's great. I watched Golota and Bowe 1 and 2 recently, this is prime Bowe, and boy, does he suck. If not for the DQ's he was losing both of those fights.

I know a lot of people loved watching Tyson KO electricians, builders and binmen, but I'm not one of those people.

Whyte just got ktfo by a shell from that era.

Bowe was not in his prime vs Golota, that was the beginning of the end for him. You need to watch his fights with Holyfield.

It's easy to pick individual fights, look at prime AJ with Ruiz in both fights, Parker, Takam, he won his first title against Charles Martin....these aren't great fighters nor were the performances good from AJ in those fights (except for Martin but we know why that is).

Fury going life and death with Wallin and nearly stopped? Getting schooled and dropped by a cruiserweight?

What about Wilder's title run? Who did he fight? How did that go?

Not sure who it was on the other page talking about Ali-Spinks, like we're really discounting the rest of Ali's career to make this era seem better than it actually is?

I think it's a good time for heavyweight boxing but picking individual fights from the past to discredit the rest of these fighters careers and achievements isn't it....I love the heavyweight era at the moment but just made it look like **** by talking about individual fights like you're doing with past fighters/eras, what you're saying isn't clever or proving anything other than you don't know much about boxing's past if you think Ali-Spinks or the Bowe-Golota fights defined their eras.

[tophat1]

Fury looks like he would have been a tough fight for anyone of any era but the fact guys like pulev, povetkin and chisora are all in high profile fights near the top end of the division despite being at least 5 years past their primes tells you all you need to know about the quality of the division .

[Marchegiano]

I dunno buddy.

Without getting too detailed:

Early boxing = Whites only us champions who hardly ever fought any international fighters

Middle period = US/Europe centric as ****.

Today = Fujimoto might be gone, but, there was a top ten Japanese HW and a few Chinese crack the world ranking here and there.

How world was Ali really?

[PRchamp]

Call me crazy but I think Evolution just took over the Heavyweight division. The days of quick and active Heavyweights are gone due to the fact that they had better skill, better speed, better activity but those type of Heavyweights are too small for the Heavyweight division currently.

I feel like every Heavyweight fight, I just see the same skill set and it just is sloppy and boring as ****. These guys can’t even throw combos anymore

Everybody is almost 240+ and 20ft tall so the smaller active heavyweights don’t have the power and the most important factor are giving up 35+ Pounds

[JakeTheBoxer]

I feel like every Heavyweight fight, I just see the same skill set and it just is sloppy and boring as ****. These guys can’t even throw combos anymore

That is why Fury is the best. he is just the most skilled between all those huge guys.

[JakeTheBoxer]

How world was Ali really? [/COLOR]

Well...he fought black American, white American, Germans, Canadians, Brits, Argentinians, Belgians..I guess he was legit. But I agree with you, times changed. Now you have ex Russians as pros, Cubans..

[Theuklion]

Wilder beaten like a dog when fighting Fury as a defending WBC champion

Ruiz doing nothing in a rematch, losing 12 -0 in rounds to Joshua, as a defending champion.

Kownacki , "top PBC prospect" stopped in 4th round by Helenius.

Ortiz, Sanchez, Zhang, Hrgovic fighting bums in fights nobody cares about.

Usyk - Chisora is actually the best hw fight we have seen recently.

Sorry, but this era is pretty bad. I mean, it has a potential. But contenders and fringe contenders must start fighting each other.

No **** Sherlock, this era is probably worse than when Mike Tyson went on to clean up the division, back then we all said that was the worst ever era for heavyweights, but this crop surpasses it easily for mediocrity.