Is Eddie Hearn overrated as a promoter?

[Inspired]

1. I never said anything is wrong with Whyte asking for an immediate rematch with Povetkin (that’s what he’s supposed to do). It’s a pointless fight he shouldn’t have taken in the first place since he got the mandatory spot already. I remember saying on here that Hearn is just using Whyte and he’ll get sparked by Povetkin. And that’s what happened.

I just said Hearn’s greed and idiocy reared its head again with him suggesting Hunter or Ruiz for a late replacement for Povetkin. Those are very good boxers with different styles and you don’t throw them in with a guy that just got knocked out (with a lot at stake now) as a late replacement

Learn how to read.

2. Amir Khan had a lot of hype coming from the Olympics. He was like 18 and almost nicked a gold medal from a Cuban legend. And the hype followed him to the pros.

Khan was matched well coming up - his chin just wasn’t good enoug.

3. Al Haymon is PBC’s promoter and PBC has does the matchmaking for their boxers. The dynamics of PBC is too complicated for you to understand.

Golden Boy did the matchmaking for Canelo NOT Eddy Reynoso and there’s a reason why they’re loggerheads now.

MTK global is a promotional company that’s copying Al Haymon’s model of advisors. The dynamics of MTK global isn’t that simplistic.

4. There was no darn “no fly zone” in Saudi Arabia. WWE fight there. WBSS was held there and Khan fought there a couple of months before AJ fought Ruiz. Stop giving Hearn too much credit.


I don’t care about what he says - he’s a snake oil sales. It’s about what he does and they’re out there for all to see. Matchroom ruins young prospects. Look at all the Olympians signed to Matchroom - they’re either half-ruined or have no hype around them. Now compare them to their counterparts in the US like Teofimo Lopez and Shakur Stevenson and you can see the difference.

If Hearn were that good - British Olympians signed to him would be having the same buzz as Teofimo Lopez and Shakur Stevenson.

It’s not personal - I’m just stating FACTS. He’s ruining all these boxers due to greed and someone has to say it.

your reasoning works like this

how come Jared Anderson has no traction like what Daniel dubois had after a few fights?
therefore frank warren is a better promoter than anderson.



if whyte gets dropped hard, its eddie's fault
if amir khan got walloped by prescott, it was amir khan's fault
this is a biased view bro, forget about it. it's subjective **** and pointless.
it's like arguing who'se a better football agent.

I didnt say eddie did anything special in going to saudi in of itself, i was making a point of frank warren saying 'no fly zone' on saudi whilst keeping quiet about tyson the attention wh0re going there through the wwe. the same he did with the ticket scalping stuff.
for me, frank warren's bitterness and reputation is what makes him a bad promoter.


I look at the young talents eddie's signed in america, the american ones, im certain apart from Haney, you would not even know a single one of them were they with other promoters. I follow most of their fights and stories because im aware of them and like what they're about.
Also, it matters not that some guys like stevenson are hyped more than haney. I saw the way espn pundits fell down in deep worship of tyson fury's giant magical stool once
doesn't mean ****, it's empty hype..
the only thing that matters is who beats who eventually, who makes it.
you can't just artificially pump up boxers too much before they've proved themselves. Besides you missed the point on Haney vs Teofimo/tank.
there are certain points in a boxers career when the hype and attention is on them
when they first come on the scene (like haney last yr)
when they start challenging for and winning world titles.
Haney inbetween those 2 stages, being an 'email' champ n all. Tank's been a champion for a while, knocking guys out.
Fimo has just beaten loma.

if haney was to beat both those guys, who would be the bigger star? if he failed...then it's eddie hearns fault for not hyping them?
makes no sense bro. let them fight, the hype doesnt mean **** right now. way too early.


bob and al have had many names and not done much with them. you can pick and choose any style of argument you want here, focus on one's failures to another's successes. it's all subjective

i liked the cards in eddie's back garden
i enjoyed that more than a big event in america..
i loved the terri harper vs natasha jonas fight
that context and buzz was done eddie hearn fashion...you'd never get that on a frank warren show.

[Laligalaliga]

LMAOOO. After explaining everything to you in 2 days - you still don’t get it, do you?

Promoters don’t just 12/3%-20% just for organising fights. Their job description includes the following:

- Matchmaking.
- Boxer’s development.

If it was solely about organising events - boxers and networks won’t need them tbh.

I know you still won’t get it and talking to you is like talking to a rock.

I’m done here.

Relax and don't act like you know much.
Promoter: matchmake and promote the fighters and events.
Trainer: train the fighter to deliver fight after fight so the promoter will have something to promote.
Is this too hard to understand?

[Rick Taylor]

Lol.... Just kidding thou. Its all banter, no hard feelings

you still seem pretty angry tbh 😜

[paulf]

He's done a great job rolling up British boxing.

He's embarrassed himself in America.

[BangEM]

your reasoning works like this

how come Jared Anderson has no traction like what Daniel dubois had after a few fights?
therefore frank warren is a better promoter than anderson.



if whyte gets dropped hard, its eddie's fault
if amir khan got walloped by prescott, it was amir khan's fault
this is a biased view bro, forget about it. it's subjective **** and pointless.
it's like arguing who'se a better football agent.

I didnt say eddie did anything special in going to saudi in of itself, i was making a point of frank warren saying 'no fly zone' on saudi whilst keeping quiet about tyson the attention wh0re going there through the wwe. the same he did with the ticket scalping stuff.
for me, frank warren's bitterness and reputation is what makes him a bad promoter.


I look at the young talents eddie's signed in america, the american ones, im certain apart from Haney, you would not even know a single one of them were they with other promoters. I follow most of their fights and stories because im aware of them and like what they're about.
Also, it matters not that some guys like stevenson are hyped more than haney. I saw the way espn pundits fell down in deep worship of tyson fury's giant magical stool once
doesn't mean ****, it's empty hype..
the only thing that matters is who beats who eventually, who makes it.
you can't just artificially pump up boxers too much before they've proved themselves. Besides you missed the point on Haney vs Teofimo/tank.
there are certain points in a boxers career when the hype and attention is on them
when they first come on the scene (like haney last yr)
when they start challenging for and winning world titles.
Haney inbetween those 2 stages, being an 'email' champ n all. Tank's been a champion for a while, knocking guys out.
Fimo has just beaten loma.

if haney was to beat both those guys, who would be the bigger star? if he failed...then it's eddie hearns fault for not hyping them?
makes no sense bro. let them fight, the hype doesnt mean **** right now. way too early.


bob and al have had many names and not done much with them. you can pick and choose any style of argument you want here, focus on one's failures to another's successes. it's all subjective

i liked the cards in eddie's back garden
i enjoyed that more than a big event in america..
i loved the terri harper vs natasha jonas fight
that context and buzz was done eddie hearn fashion...you'd never get that on a frank warren show.

You'll never get it. Even after explaining things to you in the simplest form.

Then again, you claimed you got to know about boxing via Hearn's snake oil salesman talks on YouTube. So it's showing in your post.

[BangEM]

Relax and don't act like you know much.
Promoter: matchmake and promote the fighters and events.
Trainer: train the fighter to deliver fight after fight so the promoter will have something to promote.
Is this too hard to understand?

So you now agree that it's the promoter's job to matchmake, no?

Now let's look at Matchroom's matchmaking:

- Kell Brook vs GGG: is this a good match?

- Josh Kelly (novice with 9 fights) vs Ray Robinson (seasoned veteran who just fought in a championship fight for a belt): is this a good match?

Answer the 2 questions.

[Laligalaliga]

you still seem pretty angry tbh 😜

Lol........ Angry about what exactly?

[Laligalaliga]

So you now agree that it's the promoter's job to matchmake, no?

Now let's look at Matchroom's matchmaking:

- Kell Brook vs GGG: is this a good match?

- Josh Kelly (novice with 9 fights) vs Ray Robinson (seasoned veteran who just fought in a championship fight for a belt): is this a good match?

Answer the 2 questions.

Lol...... You are very poor in analysis. You want to use 2 match making gone wrong to define a promoter. Probably that's the only match makings you know about Eddie. I wouldn't be surprise if those are the ones you know.
Should we talk about the recent PBC match making? Or Arum match making as well?
Lol..... Go get somewhere to rest your head, you are tired.

[BangEM]

Lol...... You are very poor in analysis. You want to use 2 match making gone wrong to define a promoter. Probably that's the only match makings you know about Eddie. I wouldn't be surprise if those are the ones you know.
Should we talk about the recent PBC match making? Or Arum match making as well?
Lol..... Go get somewhere to rest your head, you are tired.

I gave two guys he completely ruined. And during the conversation on this thread - I've cited loads of examples. But Hearn's lil willy is stuck in yer throat and you won't see them.

AJ was poorly matched for 75% of his career hence he never really developed the way he was meant to be with all the talent he has and had to rely mostly on power until the Ruiz fight. He was just good enough to get to where he's.

Dillian Whyte's last two fights were terrible matches.

Okolie hasn't been matched well hence he fights the way he fight and hugs everyone. And he's a brutal KO waiting to happen since he only relies on landing a big shot.

Buatsi isn't matched well either.

Golden Boy and Arum have the best matchmakers in the business and they stay developing superstars.

Matchroom ruins young boxers! Nothing personal - it's just the truth.

[Laligalaliga]

I gave two guys he completely ruined. And during the conversation on this thread - I've cited loads of examples. But Hearn's lil willy is stuck in yer throat and you won't see them.

AJ was poorly matched for 75% of his career hence he never really developed the way he was meant to be with all the talent he has and had to rely mostly on power until the Ruiz fight. He was just good enough to get to where he's.

Dillian Whyte's last two fights were terrible matches.

Okolie hasn't been matched well hence he fights the way he fight and hugs everyone. And he's a brutal KO waiting to happen since he only relies on landing a big shot.

Buatsi isn't matched well either.

Golden Boy and Arum have the best matchmakers in the business and they stay developing superstars.

Matchroom ruins young boxers! Nothing personal - it's just the truth.

Lol...... Let's agree with you that wilder was well matched in his career.
Lmao.