How good was Floyd?

[Monzon99]

Yes, nothing about floyd impressed me after 140. He was a rigged pretender, boring in ring and boring outside the ring. he never spoke an interesting sentence in his life. he was incapable of doing or saying anything interesting because he's a spoiled brat man child. he still is a spoiled brat man child today. all of his lines were pre scripted BS. phloyd showed his true colors when Margarito confronted him, he stuttered and stammered and lied like the ****** he is. Good fighter with a TON of protection and political backing by an establishment which needed a black star to sell.

[IronDanHamza]

YES- is the answer.... the TOP Cherry=Picker in Boxing. You need go no further than his fight with Emanuel Augustus, a game guy without any kind of punch. Mayweather was the unbeaten 130 lb champ with 5 defences, top fighter, and thinking "Carefully" of going up in a year or so to lightweight, so who does he pick as a "test". He picks Emanuel. a guy with 22 wins and 16 losses.

When he fought Castillo he slipped up and actually lost. But he could be excused as Castillo had already been the battering post for Julio Cesar Chavez for 9 years, his top sparring partner. But the fight was in Las Vegas...so he got the decision.

I'll stop here, even thinking of the guy is distasteful. I love boxing and true sportsmanship, and when you look at Mayweather, you see nothing. A nothing, with tons of money fooled from the ignorant, ****** public. So instead of "boxer" he should be put along with Barnum as "con-man",

Wrong.

He fought Augustus because he was coming off a lay off and was an intended tune up. It nothing to do with testing the waters at 135. The fight wasn’t at 130 because Floyd couldn’t make 130 easily after the lay off.

When he did make his actual move to 135 he fought the best fighter at 135 for his first fight.

Your narrative is nothing close to reality.

[Monzon99]

floyd can't even go to nba games, they boo him there. the public knows a fraud, dumb boxing fans dont.

only a fraud would confess twice on video that he's a coward.

Arum rigged both castillo fights. floyd was being groomed to be a moneymaker but arum didn't believe floyd had the qualities to be the best. he did not. Haymon took over and rigged everything. floyd ducking pac for 6 years and now ducking the rematch for over $100m is all you need.

[blowblow]

floyd can't even go to nba games, they boo him there. the public knows a fraud, dumb boxing fans dont.

only a fraud would confess twice on video that he's a coward.

Arum rigged both castillo fights. floyd was being groomed to be a moneymaker but arum didn't believe floyd had the qualities to be the best. he did not. Haymon took over and rigged everything. floyd ducking pac for 6 years and now ducking the rematch for over $100m is all you need.

everybody who believes floyd is TBE is surely a dumb. he is fraud.

[Roadblock]

Not quite. Pac beat a better version of Cotto and JMM. Also got a much higher quality win over Cotto and Hatton. Mosley beat a better version of DLH. Oscar beat a better version of Hernandez. JMM beat a better version of Manny. Just about everyone beat a better version of Berto.

Moreover, all of those fighters fought in much more entertaining fights against one another.

You are so full off BS its not funny, why dont you put up a case, you cant because its baseless BS.

Cotto was CW , said he would never do that to his body again.

Cotto was pressured to take the fight by Arum at the CW whom he instantly left when his contract expired, he didnt even want to put his title on the line.

Cotto was nearly beat to death by a cheat, mentality shattered and then fed 2 cans then Manny at a CW.

Cotto when retired was asked who is the best fighter you fought, Floyd Mayweather.

Manny did beat the younger JMM not necessary better, and definitely he never beat him like Floyd did, nobody ever beat totally out classing JMM like Floyd, JMM was also asked who was the best you ever fought, Floyd Mayweather .

Hatton was undefeated when Floyd stopped him at 153lbs fight night, Hatton said himself that was his best fighting weight.

Manny beat a Hatton that had lost his wife and family, lost his long time trainer, was in deep depression with suicidal thoughts and developed a ******* habit.
Hatton was asked who was the best fighter you fought Floyd Mayweather was his answer.

Just like all his opponents state Floyd was the best they been in with, and idiots say he cherry picked, if the same idiots could add up the time line, age, their most recent fights at the time and the form they were in at the time, is as plain as day Floyd fought guys pretty much around the same prime he was in, it was an era and he beat pretty much everybody that was at the top throughout his era, how the fck do you fight the best over 20 yrs and remain undefeated and they all claim he was the best they fought, thats not cherry picking.

Add it up you hating dipsticks, you fckwitts are trying to sht on a Jordan level of Boxer.

There is nobody here that could win a case against Floyd greatness because there is no case, thats why all you ever get is small talk BS, they cant back anything up with numbers or fact, all they have is rumors and agendas that dance around meaningless tangibles the likes of he wore different shoes thats why he won.

Floyd is the best of his era, he beat the best of his era, and it may even turn out via Canelo that he beat the best of the next era time will tell on that one.

Im open to debate Floyds resume vs Mannys resume with anyone, only one rule, each MUST answer the other ones question.

[blowblow]

Better than any current boxers right now in any division especially the welterweight division.

keep dreaming boy....

[blowblow]

You are so full off BS its not funny, why dont you put up a case, you cant because its baseless BS.

Cotto was CW , said he would never do that to his body again.

Cotto was pressured to take the fight by Arum at the CW whom he instantly left when his contract expired, he didnt even want to put his title on the line.

Cotto was nearly beat to death by a cheat, mentality shattered and then fed 2 cans then Manny at a CW.

Cotto when retired was asked who is the best fighter you fought, Floyd Mayweather.

Manny did beat the younger JMM not necessary better, and definitely he never beat him like Floyd did, nobody ever beat totally out classing JMM like Floyd, JMM was also asked who was the best you ever fought, Floyd Mayweather .

Hatton was undefeated when Floyd stopped him at 153lbs fight night, Hatton said himself that was his best fighting weight.

Manny beat a Hatton that had lost his wife and family, lost his long time trainer, was in deep depression with suicidal thoughts and developed a ******* habit.
Hatton was asked who was the best fighter you fought Floyd Mayweather was his answer.

Just like all his opponents state Floyd was the best they been in with, and idiots say he cherry picked, if the same idiots could add up the time line, age, their most recent fights at the time and the form they were in at the time, is as plain as day Floyd fought guys pretty much around the same prime he was in, it was an era and he beat pretty much everybody that was at the top throughout his era, how the fck do you fight the best over 20 yrs and remain undefeated and they all claim he was the best they fought, thats not cherry picking.

Add it up you hating dipsticks, you fckwitts are trying to sht on a Jordan level of Boxer.

There is nobody here that could win a case against Floyd greatness because there is no case, thats why all you ever get is small talk BS, they cant back anything up with numbers or fact, all they have is rumors and agendas that dance around meaningless tangibles the likes of he wore different shoes thats why he won.

Floyd is the best of his era, he beat the best of his era, and it may even turn out via Canelo that he beat the best of the next era time will tell on that one.

Im open to debate Floyds resume vs Mannys resume with anyone, only one rule, each MUST answer the other ones question.

stop making excuses.. especially in hatton.. manny has a lot happened in his youth but did he use them as excuses?

and for cotto.. hahaha he cannot accept being beaten so badly so he gonna answer it as floyd is the better of two.

thanks for the gift wins (castillo and maidana)

[Roadblock]

stop making excuses.. especially in hatton.. manny has a lot happened in his youth but did he use them as excuses?

and for cotto.. hahaha he cannot accept being beaten so badly so he gonna answer it as floyd is the better of two.

thanks for the gift wins (castillo and maidana)

Read this bit again.

There is nobody here that could win a case against Floyd greatness because there is no case, thats why all you ever get is small talk BS, they cant back anything up with numbers or fact, all they have is rumors and agendas that dance around meaningless tangibles the likes of he wore different shoes thats why he won.

[GrandpaBernard]

Floyd wanted no part of Mosley at 135, when he was prime. Manny never ducked Mosley or any other opponent. You expect people to believe that the guy who walks into the fire with rematches of his toughest opponents is going to duck feather-fisted Floyd or even Mosley? It doesn't pass the common sense test. Manny consistently fought bigger, stronger fighters than himself, while Floyd consistently fought smaller, older, or slower fighters. His marketing and PR team hyped up C-rate fighters like Ortiz and Guerrero to look like competitive match ups for the casuals.

Undefeated has nothing to do with whether or not a fighter is in their prime or at their best. Manny's KO win over Hatton is way more impressive than Floyd's TKO in ten rounds with the help of Joe Cortez who wouldn't allow Hatton to fight on the inside. Hatton was also much smaller against Floyd, had to come up for the fight.

topic is Floyd fought the better versions of the opponents shared between him and manny. And this proves manny is also a matchmaker so why is Floyd unique for doing it also

You going way off topic

Ahh, I would argue that Maidana revealed some kinks in his armory, and that he did avoid some fighters in their prime.

That said, I rate him higher than Pacquiao in terms of boxing skills

Maidana was a good fighter with a stylistic edge over Floyd that got him in the twilight of his career

[Roadblock]

topic is Floyd fought the better versions of the opponents shared between him and manny. And this proves manny is also a matchmaker so why is Floyd unique for doing it also

You going way off topic

Maidana was a good fighter with a stylistic edge over Floyd that got him in the twilight of his career

The Irony is that nobody that fought both Manny and Floyd says Manny is better, they all claim Floyd is the best they fought.

This is how dumb haters are, if they were remotly right the common opponents would say Manny was the better but none did, annnnnnnnnd Floyd beat Manny easy head to head.

Haters are as dumb as a fence post, intelligence and seething hate for a celebrity are polar opposites.