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  • buddyr
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    #31
    Originally posted by Mmann2e
    Wilder is done, I know everyone talks about him but he is finished he's going to end up like Liston in his new house two Christmas from now.
    killed by the mob with a police cover up?

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    • Monzon99
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      #32
      Usyk wins it easy but it will never happen because haymon and finkel have no confidence in their big bird legged no class jack ass fraud wilder.

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        #33
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
        I don`t know how is Usyk easy win for anybody.

        If usyk is able to keep Wilder`s right hand away, he can outbox Wilder.
        he would have to fight a perfect fight and not get hit at all. If he can do that, he'd win. From what I saw saturday, he can't do that

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        • champion4ever
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          #34
          Without those Tyson Fury's custom made boxing gloves; Olexander Usyk doesn't stand a chance against the "Bronze Bomber". He'll get slept in six.

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          • just the facts
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            #35
            Originally posted by Madison boxing
            usyk beats him easily, at this stage wilder is easy pickings and a broken man, the hype is gone noones scared of him anymore. i'd fancy chisora to take him out as well, wilder has no business going in there with a top 15 heavyweight anymore as they will just put it on him from round 1 as they know he cant take it. all that is left for wilder is to fight luis ortiz again
            I realize Wilder is both of the things you hate (he's both black and American) but don't get carried away. Usyk flat out doesn't have the punching power to keep Wilder at bay and Chisora doesn't have the skill. Wilder KOes both of them.

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            • just the facts
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              #36
              Originally posted by REDEEMER
              Wilder doesn’t have a solid chin to take flush shots good and we seen him losing rounds to both southpaws Szpilka and Ortiz before landing a shot . Usyk can crack he’s got a decent punch ,he would confuse Wilder and only active jabbers or pressure fighters who keep punching have a shot.

              Look at this fight ? Wilder would be easy pickings for Usyk to figure out he doesn’t throw in volume and has the worst balance when he misses ,you saw Chisora falling over missing in many spots that’s what would happen but Chisora has a better chin .

              Usyk would stagger Wilder and if he didn’t finish him he’d be up on the cards by a mile for Wilder to win .
              Sorry, I quit reading after you claimed Usyk can crack. I realize you hate Wilder but don't make up dumb shyte.

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              • Afi23
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                #37
                Obviously Usyk has the skills to outbox Wilder but Wilder has a freaky first step, his power is sudden and violent.
                I'd like to see the fight.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Monzon99
                  Usyk wins it easy but it will never happen because haymon and finkel have no confidence in their big bird legged no class jack ass fraud wilder.
                  usyk would be lucky not to be killed by wildres and you know it 🤣

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                  • Inspired
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Legends456
                    Thanks for explaining, I guess since Fury’s always grouped with Billy Joe Saunders as one of the Gypsy boxers, they could have fooled me.

                    In one such BBC article, it states ““A lot of the fighters in gyms on the amateur circuit are travellers," says Billy Joe Saunders, the current middleweight British and Commonwealth champion, who is himself a Romany Gypsy.“ and then it talks about Tyson Fury and he makes some comment about his heritage and how nobody wants to fight a Gypsy.

                    Is there set to be an increase of Gypsy and traveller fighters into the pro boxing ranks?


                    So do the real Gypsy’s sort of include the Irish Gypsy’s in their subculture?

                    Cause if I’m understanding you correctly, Billy Joe Saunders, and these people in the video, come from India, but the Furies are no different genetically from guys like James Joyce and Conor McGregor... basically just regular white Irishmen with a bohemian culture?
                    The story goes that Cromwell's invasion of Ireland displaced many and led to a new nomadic subculture that was similar to the older Romani gypsy culture from the east.

                    The problem is that Irish travellers have been believing they are Romani for a long time until recent genetic studies proved they are not related.
                    Tyson fury even said he is a descendant of Cyrus the Great.
                    How would he know that? It's nonsense. The guy blags a lot.


                    It's like when you get black people in America claiming they're the real Israelites and likewise some claiming the kemetic belief system as their own. They are west African and should accept that.

                    Romani gypsies btw are well known for forcing their women into pr0$titution and begging. Traits that frowned upon by Irish travellers.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Inspired
                      The story goes that Cromwell's invasion of Ireland displaced many and led to a new nomadic subculture that was similar to the older Romani gypsy culture from the east.

                      The problem is that Irish travellers have been believing they are Romani for a long time until recent genetic studies proved they are not related.
                      Tyson fury even said he is a descendant of Cyrus the Great.
                      How would he know that? It's nonsense. The guy blags a lot.


                      It's like when you get black people in America claiming they're the real Israelites and likewise some claiming the kemetic belief system as their own. They are west African and should accept that.

                      Romani gypsies btw are well known for forcing their women into pr0$titution and begging. Traits that frowned upon by Irish travellers.
                      That makes sense, thanks for the excellent explanation.

                      So just to clarify and make sure I’ve got it right, Fury is just an Irishman from Ireland, but Saunders is a real Gypsy with heritage from India, right?

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