Usyk vs Wilder?

[JakeTheBoxer]

That would be a great fight also for a reason, Wilder is one of those guys usyk won`t tire. Wilder has a great cardio.

[TMLT87]

Its like 55/45 in favour of Wilder for me. Wilder is much bigger and obviously hits like a truck across all 12 rounds, but hes very crude and predictable technically. Usyk is small for HW and probably doesnt have the power to hurt Wilder, but he has a chin and is skilled enough to avoid Wilders shots and box circles around him for extended periods.

[Dakuwaqa]

Wilder by KO. Usyk is a sucker for the right hand and he will be extremely tentative fighting someone with Wilders power. Easy win for Wilder

[Boxing Goat]

Would that be another Fury - Wilder 2 all over again?

We all know Wilder has 0 technical skills and only hopes to land his windmill. But if he doesn't land, the whole house of cards falls apart pretty easily.

You think Usyk can TKO Wilder as did Fury?

I think Usyk would absolutely school Wilder but with that power, who knows.

[Boxing Goat]

Another episode of “Everyone and they grandma can beat Deontae Wilder”!

Name me anyone in history that is like Tyson Fury and I’ll wait.....

Vitali Klitschko except way better than Fury

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wilder by KO. Usyk is a sucker for the right hand and he will be extremely tentative fighting someone with Wilders power. Easy win for Wilder

I don`t know how is Usyk easy win for anybody.

If usyk is able to keep Wilder`s right hand away, he can outbox Wilder.

[Dakuwaqa]

I don`t know how is Usyk easy win for anybody.

If usyk is able to keep Wilder`s right hand away, he can outbox Wilder.

Easy because of the size, reach and power disparity

[Madison Boxing]

usyk beats him easily, at this stage wilder is easy pickings and a broken man, the hype is gone noones scared of him anymore. i'd fancy chisora to take him out as well, wilder has no business going in there with a top 15 heavyweight anymore as they will just put it on him from round 1 as they know he cant take it. all that is left for wilder is to fight luis ortiz again

[Inspired]

No, Fury has several special attributes that helped him beat Wilder (whom I STILL think could beat many current HW’s).

1. Fury is one of only a very few current HW’s with a reach advantage on Wilder.

2. Fury is unusually quick for a HW.

3. Fury, no matter what his haters say, can hurt you if he sits down on his shots (and he doesn’t need eggwhites to do it).

4. Fury is a Gypsy. Not trying to say the Romani race (or any race) is superior to any other, I’m just saying that fighting is inherently a part of their culture and something they’re around all their lives. That would help, I imagine. One could make the same argument as to why so many great fighters come from the inner city.

5. Finally, Fury is super-spiritual and also very eccentric, even a bit crazy, hence Wilder’s intimidating persona and dabbling in the occult didn’t freak Fury out like it does some of his other opponents.


With all that said, Usyk was a legendary cruiserweight and seems to be a decent heavyweight, but I think he would fight well against Wilder before getting caught with some heavy shots and the fight getting waved off in the later rounds.

irish travellers/gypsies are not ROMANI gypsies.
Romani gypsies come from india where the original subculture exists.


it isnt a fighting subculture, it's more like a free/wild way of life. nomadic with a special focus on the arts.





the irish travellers are not genetically related but have some similarities in their culture.

[Legends456]

irish travellers/gypsies are not ROMANI gypsies.
Romani gypsies come from india where the original subculture exists.


it isnt a fighting subculture, it's more like a free/wild way of life. nomadic with a special focus on the arts.

the irish travellers are not genetically related but have some similarities in their culture.

Thanks for explaining, I guess since Fury’s always grouped with Billy Joe Saunders as one of the Gypsy boxers, they could have fooled me.

In one such BBC article, it states ““A lot of the fighters in gyms on the amateur circuit are travellers," says Billy Joe Saunders, the current middleweight British and Commonwealth champion, who is himself a Romany Gypsy.“ and then it talks about Tyson Fury and he makes some comment about his heritage and how nobody wants to fight a Gypsy.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/24355478

So do the real Gypsy’s sort of include the Irish Gypsy’s in their subculture?

Cause if I’m understanding you correctly, Billy Joe Saunders, and these people in the video, come from India, but the Furies are no different genetically from guys like James Joyce and Conor McGregor... basically just regular white Irishmen with a bohemian culture?