Usyk vs Wilder?

[alexnation]

Would that be another Fury - Wilder 2 all over again?

We all know Wilder has 0 technical skills and only hopes to land his windmill. But if he doesn't land, the whole house of cards falls apart pretty easily.

You think Usyk can TKO Wilder as did Fury?

[Legends456]

No, Fury has several special attributes that helped him beat Wilder (whom I STILL think could beat many current HW’s).

1. Fury is one of only a very few current HW’s with a reach advantage on Wilder.

2. Fury is unusually quick for a HW.

3. Fury, no matter what his haters say, can hurt you if he sits down on his shots (and he doesn’t need eggwhites to do it).

4. Fury is a Gypsy. Not trying to say the Romani race (or any race) is superior to any other, I’m just saying that fighting is inherently a part of their culture and something they’re around all their lives. That would help, I imagine. One could make the same argument as to why so many great fighters come from the inner city.

5. Finally, Fury is super-spiritual and also very eccentric, even a bit crazy, hence Wilder’s intimidating persona and dabbling in the occult didn’t freak Fury out like it does some of his other opponents.


With all that said, Usyk was a legendary cruiserweight and seems to be a decent heavyweight, but I think he would fight well against Wilder before getting caught with some heavy shots and the fight getting waved off in the later rounds.

[Mmann2e]

Wilder is done, I know everyone talks about him but he is finished he's going to end up like Liston in his new house two Christmas from now.

[Legends456]

Wilder is done, I know everyone talks about him but he is finished he's going to end up like Liston in his new house two Christmas from now.

Well, that would be very sad...

[Mmann2e]

Well, that would be very sad...

Everything coming out of his mouth says go home and retire, his pride will not let him fight for pennies and another lost will destroy his fragile image. He can't beat Fury and that's most likely will have the belts. He paid for things he can't afford and that's based on fighting high profile championship bouts with fan interest. So letting him speak doesn't help, him fighting in the U.S.A doesn't help as boxing is a niche, and his mindset is spite everyone who doesn't believe in him. Mark Breland, Kenny Bayless and if Finkle is lucky he'll be on the chopping block as well. All being said: Deontay Wilder is on a path that will incur debt from the mob and other criminal organizations, he's already discussed killing himself and everything is pointing to that being the end result.

[REDEEMER]

Wilder doesn’t have a solid chin to take flush shots good and we seen him losing rounds to both southpaws Szpilka and Ortiz before landing a shot . Usyk can crack he’s got a decent punch ,he would confuse Wilder and only active jabbers or pressure fighters who keep punching have a shot.

Look at this fight ? Wilder would be easy pickings for Usyk to figure out he doesn’t throw in volume and has the worst balance when he misses ,you saw Chisora falling over missing in many spots that’s what would happen but Chisora has a better chin .

Usyk would stagger Wilder and if he didn’t finish him he’d be up on the cards by a mile for Wilder to win .

[boliodogs]

Would that be another Fury - Wilder 2 all over again?

We all know Wilder has 0 technical skills and only hopes to land his windmill. But if he doesn't land, the whole house of cards falls apart pretty easily.

You think Usyk can TKO Wilder as did Fury?

I think Wilder would KO Usyk. Wilder is no master boxer but neither is he without any boxing skills. He has a long fast hard left jab, a decent left hook and a deadly straight right. Before Fury KOed him he was undefeated and not every guy he koed was a bum. Ortiz hurt Wilder but could not finish him and Ortiz hits much harder than Usyk.

[MoneyKasha]

It depends... is usyk using egg weights?

[alexnation]

No, Fury has several special attributes that helped him beat Wilder (whom I STILL think could beat many current HW’s).

1. Fury is one of only a very few current HW’s with a reach advantage on Wilder.

2. Fury is unusually quick for a HW.

3. Fury, no matter what his haters say, can hurt you if he sits down on his shots (and he doesn’t need eggwhites to do it).

4. Fury is a Gypsy. Not trying to say the Romani race (or any race) is superior to any other, I’m just saying that fighting is inherently a part of their culture and something they’re around all their lives. That would help, I imagine. One could make the same argument as to why so many great fighters come from the inner city.

5. Finally, Fury is super-spiritual and also very eccentric, even a bit crazy, hence Wilder’s intimidating persona and dabbling in the occult didn’t freak Fury out like it does some of his other opponents.


With all that said, Usyk was a legendary cruiserweight and seems to be a decent heavyweight, but I think he would fight well against Wilder before getting caught with some heavy shots and the fight getting waved off in the later rounds.

Fair points. I appreciate the input

[alexnation]

I think Wilder would KO Usyk. Wilder is no master boxer but neither is he without any boxing skills. He has a long fast hard left jab, a decent left hook and a deadly straight right. Before Fury KOed him he was undefeated and not every guy he koed was a bum. Ortiz hurt Wilder but could not finish him and Ortiz hits much harder than Usyk.

But Ortiz is very heavy on his feet, which is a perfect target for Wilder's style. Now Usyk is light on his feet just like Fury and Ali. he moves around quickly and dodges straight shots

I gotta admit though, Fury can punch. Usyk - we don't know that yet but from what I've seen so far, his punches might be too light for HW. However, his punches output can offset that shortcoming