Better heavyweight ? Haye or Usyk

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  • Marchegiano
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    #11
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    David Haye was in my opinion, in terms of pure ability was both a better cruiser-weight and heavyweight.
    I agree with KOOL

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    • TMLT87
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      #12
      Haye mainly because of his power.

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        #13
        So far Haye's power is the difference maker between the two. It allowed him to keep people from rushing him and fight his fight. Usyk needs to throw with a little more sting on some of his shots when he mixes it up, otherwise I can see a quicker heavyweight willing to exchange to deliver one good one.

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        • South Champion
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          #14
          I can't imagine Usyk beating a 7 footer like Valuev, like Haye was able to do.

          Valuev was the tallest and heaviest champ of all time. He outweighed Haye by 100 pounds (312 vs 212).

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          • boliodogs
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            #15
            Haye is the better fighter at 200 or heavyweight in my opinion. Haye won a piece of the world heavyweight title and I doubt Usyk will ever do that. Haye had big punching power and Usyk does not and that is the main reason Haye is better.

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            • Mikhnienko
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              #16
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              Haye is the better fighter at 200 or heavyweight in my opinion. Haye won a piece of the world heavyweight title and I doubt Usyk will ever do that. Haye had big punching power and Usyk does not and that is the main reason Haye is better.
              Haye doesn't go undefeated through Usyk's CW run. He couldn't outbox Fragomeni he isn't beating Briedis, i would favor Gassiev, and Hunter might possibly beat him too due to his style.

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              • boliodogs
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                #17
                Originally posted by Kezzer
                It’s completely unfair to judge who is better at the moment.. Usyk hasn’t yet taken on the highest level opponents. Haye failed when he took on the very best let’s not forget
                I did not forget Haye's failure but I am sure that Usyk would have failed that same test by KO. I have seen enough of both boxers to rate Haye better than Usyk.

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                  #18
                  About equal at least right now . If Haye was able to defeat Klitschko easy you can say he defeats AJ, there’s no evidence of that and a big puncher Hrgovic busted Haye up taking him out of the Fury fight so can he deal with good big punchers ? Haye maybe he gets by Usy ,but AJ ? What fight shows that ?
                  Last edited by REDEEMER; 11-01-2020, 10:47 AM.

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                    #19
                    I think Usyk may be the overall better boxer but he lacks Haye's physical strength and power at heavyweight which may prove costly for him down the line.

                    We have to wait and see how Usyk does going forward, I give him more of a shot against AJ than most seem to be - I could see him outboxing and outworking Joshua over 12 rounds but I can also see AJ knocking him the **** out in about 8 rounds.

                    As it stands, I guess Haye's heavyweight run might go down as better than Usyk's but he's still active and may surprise a lot of people.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by South Champion
                      I can't imagine Usyk beating a 7 footer like Valuev, like Haye was able to do.

                      Valuev was the tallest and heaviest champ of all time. He outweighed Haye by 100 pounds (312 vs 212).
                      I can't imagine Usyk losing to Bellow once let alone twice..

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