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  • creekrat77
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    #31
    Haye all day. Usyk is very overrated and I'm not a fan. I feel like a guy his size should be a lot better at turning over more weight in his punches. Primw Haye is a top 10 heavyweight in any era. I can't say the same for Usyk

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    • tritium_arma
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      #32
      Haye threw so few punches in his championship fights vs Wlad and Valuev after all the trash talk. Would have to see how Usyk does vs a top heavyweight before I can say for sure.

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      • Stuntman Mike
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        #33
        Originally posted by Kezzer
        It’s completely unfair to judge who is better at the moment.. Usyk hasn’t yet taken on the highest level opponents. Haye failed when he took on the very best let’s not forget
        Thats the thing thats being discussed ,people sleep on how good haye was just because he came up short against wlad but praise usyk when hes half the fighter haye was at heavyweight

        Usyk has no chance besting joshua he was getting ragdolled by and inaccurate talentless oaf last night

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        • Legends456
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          #34
          I’d rate them about the same. One rung below the elite HW’s of their day.

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          • tatot
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            #35
            Originally posted by BangEM
            He was past his prime and he only came back to the sport for money.

            Prime HW Haye would spark Usyk in 6 rds.
            I have to disagree with you here mate. Prime for prime, Haye would only have a puncher’s chance. Usyk schools him and maybe stops him late imo.

            I was actually rooting for Haye to really hurt Bellew when they fought. Though he was already past his prime, I was expecting him to win with his power and explosiveness alone but Tony was all wrong for him

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              #36
              Originally posted by Stuntman Mike
              Thats the thing thats being discussed ,people sleep on how good haye was just because he came up short against wlad but praise usyk when hes half the fighter haye was at heavyweight

              Usyk has no chance besting joshua he was getting ragdolled by and inaccurate talentless oaf last night
              I suspect he'd throw a lot more than the 143 punches Haye threw against the great Valuev. Haye seems to have a bit more pop in his punch but a weaker chin.

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              • JakeTheBoxer
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                #37
                Usyk still must fight top 10 hw.

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                • FinitoxDinamita
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                  #38
                  Haye without a doubt. Usyk has one of the ugliest forms ive seen in Boxing and I just dont know what people see in him. Him and the ****** faces he makes I wanna see more HWs put hands on him.

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                  • Stuntman Mike
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by tritium_arma
                    I suspect he'd throw a lot more than the 143 punches Haye threw against the great Valuev. Haye seems to have a bit more pop in his punch but a weaker chin.
                    Thats another thing people say about haye,how does haye have a weaker chin?

                    Haye was stopped at cruiserweight after blowing himself out it wasnt really his chin

                    And then the bellew fights he was injured in both and took a lot of punishment in the first and he was way past his best before he even stepped in the ring with bellew

                    Apart from that i cant remember anyone else rocking haye off balance a few times maybe and wlad landed some solid right hands and hayes chin stood up

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                    • Stuntman Mike
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by tatot
                      I have to disagree with you here mate. Prime for prime, Haye would only have a puncher’s chance. Usyk schools him and maybe stops him late imo.

                      I was actually rooting for Haye to really hurt Bellew when they fought. Though he was already past his prime, I was expecting him to win with his power and explosiveness alone but Tony was all wrong for him
                      Haye had no legs and his speed was gone,prime for prime he would have smashed bellew and everyone with half a brain cell surely knows that

                      If chisora can land on usyk then a prime haye would easily land some heavy bombs on usyk and i doubt hed be able to stand up to it

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