Better heavyweight ? Haye or Usyk

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #21
    Originally posted by Shadoww702
    I can't imagine Usyk losing to Bellow once let alone twice..
    Haye was 37 -38 than. Usyk is now 33. Who knows if he will still be fighting by the age of 38.

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    • Shadoww702
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      #22
      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
      Haye was 37 -38 than. Usyk is now 33. Who knows if he will still be fighting by the age of 38.
      Yeah but at this stage Haye already has a Knock-out loss to a guy with 6 losses at CW with almost all his losses by KO.

      Plus one could beat Bellow while the other couldn't...

      I think too many ppl playing next day qb.

      If we want play triangle theories Usyk beat Hunter pretty easily who drew with Pedvetkin, who just ko'd Whyte.

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      • Shadoww702
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        #23
        Once Usyk loses or loses to guy like Thompson then we can hit this topic up again.

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        • DreamFighter
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          #24
          the standard answer is too early to say, but cruisers are heavies anyway, and usyk is better than haye in that respect, a very different level.

          haye is really not much, he used to get his azz ahanded to him when he picked the wrong guy at cruiser.

          hayes best hw win is shot ruiz so the bar is hardly high...but strictly speaking for just HW< SUyk has yet to reach it. Doesnt matter, Usyk beat better.

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          • Citizen Koba
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            #25
            I'd favour Usyk to beat Haye 3 times outta 4 but I'd give Haye a better chance of beating the real big Heavies, so yeah. That.

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            • tatot
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              #26
              Originally posted by BangEM
              Haye by a wide margin.

              You can’t teach power and speed.

              Haye put a younger Chisora to sleep. Usyk went life and death against a 40-yr old Chisora.
              Haye got destroyed by Bellew though, not once but twice. the same guy Usyk put to sleep lol

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              • Mooshashi
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                #27
                Usyk has intangible positives, like a better chin and WAY more heart and determination. And personally I think he's a better boxer with a better ring IQ. Haye does or did have more power, which may be Usyk's undoing at HW.

                So Usyk > Haye at CW.
                So far, Haye > Usyk at HW.

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                • Dolor
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                  I'd favour Usyk to beat Haye 3 times outta 4 but I'd give Haye a better chance of beating the real big Heavies, so yeah. That.
                  Just wanted to write something similar. Haye had more power and was therefore more of a threat at HW, but his chin was not that great at all. Maybe Usyk's chin isn't great either at HW, but I guess we will just have to wait and see.

                  It's nonsense by the way to that Chisora is oh so slow - before he gassed he showed good handspeed (in particular for his age). He also hit Haye a couple of times clean in their fight, and Haye had good head movement and reflexes.

                  I still think that Usyk will have a hard getting any part of the HW title. He is (decently sized) CW, no HW.

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                  • MehdiQaos
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                    #29
                    Usyk beats him for sure at cruiserweight but IDK about hw

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                    • BangEM
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by tatot
                      Haye got destroyed by Bellew though, not once but twice. the same guy Usyk put to sleep lol
                      He was past his prime and he only came back to the sport for money.

                      Prime HW Haye would spark Usyk in 6 rds.

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