Comments Thread For: Roy Jones: I Wasn't Like Mayweather, I Went And Got Every Belt Possible

[megas30]

Every single expert had prime Roy rated far above prime Floyd. In their primes there was no comparison, Floyd wasn't even close and Floyd most definitely knew it.

Rated in terms of what? Flashiness? Floyd has always been the better technical fighter than Roy. I remember how even Hopkins began biting off Floyd's style of fighting, mainly the Jab to the stomach and the shooting right hand off the front foot from a crouching position.

[megas30]

Actually they did .. . . . .

The subject came up during the official press conference for Jones’ upcoming exhibition with former World heavyweight champion Mike Tyson. Something called the WBC Frontline Battle Belt will be at stake for the scheduled event, which will be contested in eight two-minute rounds on November 28 live on Triller Pay-Per-View from Staples Center in Los Angeles, California.

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Roy's opinion matters just as much as Floyd's. Maybe even more

Roy became personal. You need to read with understanding. The subject of question is about 'too many" belts not Floyd's career, per se. All he needed to do give his take on the multiple belts, but instead he took a dig at Floyd's career when Floyd never took a dig at his. Talking about he's old school and goes after all the belts, which is not even a valid argument, because if he's from the school then there was really one champ per weight class then, which meant less fringe belts; and, this is what Floyd wants boxing to revert back to.

[megas30]

I think we disagree on what talent is. I believe talent to be God given ability. You seem to be tying it into skill and iq which is something that can be developed. For example, I don't think Hopkins was super talented but he developed great skill and iq. I don't think Roy had a bad iq but he more heavily relied in his natural talent (which includes athletiscm) to win fights.

Talent is a package consist of ring IQ, chin, stamina, athleticism. Roy had the Athleticism, but not the IQ and chin. Roy would go wild and throw multiple punches and overwhelm opponents, but in a fight, say, against Calzaghe, he was exposed for having low boxing IQ. Watch that fight again and see how Roy did every single thing wrong. Dude couldn't even cut off a ring to save his life. He couldn't adapt, couldn't set traps. He just followed Calzaghe around the ring getting picked off.

I don't think Hopkins has the full package either He is a cerebral fighter (IQ)--looking to outsmart and outthink his opponents, but he lacks the athleticism. Mayweather is Hopkins (IQ)+Roy(Athleticism). Mayweather and Hopkins can fight into a later stage, though, but Roy, not so much. Mosley is like Roy as well, but with a better chin. Mosley has no IQ, and survived on pure athleticism. When all of his (Mosley) athleticism was gone he became a sitting duck.

[JLC]

I dont think Roy was ever undisputed at any weight so im not sure what he even means by this.

*edit. He did become undisputed at Light Heavyweight upon me checking which is pretty big. It wasn't a strong Era he fought in but he deserves.credit for that..

Roy never won the WBO. Dariusz Michaelzewski was their champ for years and years and years at 175.

[Boxing Goat]

The evidence speaks for itself. Roy was not able to beat not even a journey man when his athleticism left him. What made me realize Roy lacked technical abilities and ring IQ was the Calzaghe fight. Roy was throwing the same punch the entire fight and Calzaghe was outsmarting and outthinking him. Roy could not adapt for the Calzaghe fight.

Calzaghe made Roy looked basic. He was not setting traps, he was Jabbing properly, and he couldn't cut off a ring to save his life. When he fought against low level fighters he was able to use his athletic ability to overwhelm them, but not with good technical fighters.

Lol Roy's reflexes were gone bye bye

That's what made his style work. If you have no reflexes at the age of damn near 40, you don't just learn a new fighting style.

I stand by my previous statements.

[Boxing Goat]

Roy became personal. You need to read with understanding. The subject of question is about 'too many" belts not Floyd's career, per se. All he needed to do give his take on the multiple belts, but instead he took a dig at Floyd's career when Floyd never took a dig at his. Talking about he's old school and goes after all the belts, which is not even a valid argument, because if he's from the school then there was really one champ per weight class then, which meant less fringe belts; and, this is what Floyd wants boxing to revert back to.

The questions being directedly asked to Roy about Floyd made it personal.

Had Roy started talking about Floyd unprovoked, you may have something but you don't. You're just being a Floyd fanboy.

No surprises there.

[sicko]

I guess he just wanted to take the time to take a jab at Floyd but Floyd is not wrong about all the Belts. This is something that has been posted on this forum repeatedly about how Ridiculous the WBA and WBC are with all those Belts all just to collect Fees and make $$$ and even WBC President Suiliman recently came out and admitted that is was about the $$$

[Boxing Goat]

In the day, EVERYONE had Roy rated above Floyd. When both were in their primes, Roy was P4P king.

Agreed. Roy was like Manny and Floyd rolled into one.

The offense of Manny and the defense of Floyd

[Boxing Goat]

If both Floyd and Roy were the same size in their prime, Floyd would’ve won, Roy never faced a fighter as cunning, smart, defensive with cat like reflexes and sharp counter punching!

How you beat prime Roy was you timed him, he was too fast and hit too hard to exchange with him so you time him and Floyd would’ve done it!

Lol Hopkins and Toney would definitely disagree

[Boxing Goat]

Talent is a package consist of ring IQ, chin, stamina, athleticism. Roy had the Athleticism, but not the IQ and chin. Roy would go wild and throw multiple punches and overwhelm opponents, but in a fight, say, against Calzaghe, he was exposed for having low boxing IQ. Watch that fight again and see how Roy did every single thing wrong. Dude couldn't even cut off a ring to save his life. He couldn't adapt, couldn't set traps. He just followed Calzaghe around the ring getting picked off.

I don't think Hopkins has the full package either He is a cerebral fighter (IQ)--looking to outsmart and outthink his opponents, but he lacks the athleticism. Mayweather is Hopkins (IQ)+Roy(Athleticism). Mayweather and Hopkins can fight into a later stage, though, but Roy, not so much. Mosley is like Roy as well, but with a better chin. Mosley has no IQ, and survived on pure athleticism. When all of his (Mosley) athleticism was gone he became a sitting duck.

Once again YDSAB

Talent is more or less a gift from God to have an ability to do something, not something learned , then honed and perfected. Which is what Floyd did. Fanboy alert lol