Boxing PPV vs last nights UFC

[PRINCEKOOL]

...and one fight earlier Tim got knocked out in 36 seconds. He was a notoriously undisciplined lazy slob who got caught. How often do you think Mercer could replicate that result? he didnt manage it against Kimbo who made him tap and he didnt manage it when he got stopped in 20 seconds in K-1 either.

And why are you ignoring James Toney getting toyed with by Couture? or the several boxers that went to K1 and looked like ****?



Both things can be true. He came to get paid because he knew he could leverage his name for a big payday and boxing money is ****ing hilariously excessive relative to its popularity ($40m in purses to get Canelo/Kovalev made only for them to wait backstage so the fans in attendance could watch a UFC fight between two guys making around $1m combined), but in doing so he also gave boxing a rare moment of mainstream exposure.



"talent" is entirely subjective. As for public interest, the UFC is ahead by practically every metric these days, has been for a while. You must have your head in the sand to not notice this.

Boxer's typically go into mixed martial arts at the end of their careers. Where as Mixed Martial Arts fighters have come into boxing at the peak of their careers, and then faced boxers at this time etc

Mcgregor was at the peak of his powers, when facing a retired fighter in Floyd Mayweather, who was also giving away 20 pounds to him in weight 'Mcgregor one of mixed martial arts, most feared fighters at the time was bullied out of the ring'.

And if Mcgregor would of faced a boxer his own size, I doubt he would be drinking his proper twelve whiskey after the fight 'Just imagine what Canelo Alvarez would of done to Mcgregor'.

Mixed Martial Arts fighters are like amateur Decathletes.

Boxing is apart of Mixed Martial Arts, it is not a alien discipline to them 'That is why if they think they are tough? They should challenge boxers in a boxing ring'.

When you participate in any martial arts, you are given a license and sworn not to use the martial art unlawfully against any members of the public 'The culture of Mixed Martial Arts does not adhere to this tradition, because it has a weasel scumbag culture'.

Note: I want to see more Mixed Martial Arts fighters challenging boxers, and to be honest? If they win, I would not be bothered. I currently want to see Mcgregor face Malinaggi 'If he wants to face Pacquiao, he has to have a build up fight first'. The fight between Mcgregor and Malinaggi is there to be made next year etc.

[TMLT87]

When you participate in any martial arts, you are given a license and sworn not to use the martial art unlawfully against any members of the public 'The culture of Mixed Martial Arts does not adhere to this tradition, because it has a weasel scumbag culture'.

The main reason for that is so gyms avoid liablity and also in a lot of cases so the students dont ever figure out that what they're being taught is a bunch of bull**** that doesnt work in real life.

You keep talking about "weasel scumbag culture" like boxing and its fanbase is classy, respectable and sophisticated in comparison. Where the **** you get this idea from other than your own severe bias I dont know.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

As we've already established, boxing pay is ****ing insane and Conor knew he had the star power to walk into boxing and get that kind of payday and high profile fight. And Floyd is Floyd, he was a huge star, even bigger than Conor.


Lets just put this in perspective though, around a third of all PPV buys for boxing from the last 5 years come from one fight involving a retired guy in his 40s fighting someone from the UFC who had never had a pro boxing match before. That is ****ing ridiculous. And it gets worse when you take into account that even with that fight included the UFC is still miles ahead in total PPV buys over that same time frame.

So why did Conor have to come to boxing if UFC are doing all these big numbers? Why are the fighters getting peanuts in comparison to boxers?

Boxers earn more than UFC fighters for the same reason doctors earn more than labourers, they are MORE SKILLED workers.

I’m done with this conversation man, you’ve got your head so far up Dana’s ass that you’re completely delusional.

Highest grossing PPV’s of all time. Every single one of them is boxing. UFC still haven’t topped the numbers Mike did in the 90’s, they haven’t even topped the numbers Ray and Hagler did in the 80’s. That’s how far behind they are...

[Armchairhero]

imagine a ufc fighter at age 33 like terrance crawford and never had a big fight? mayweather ruined boxing with his fictitious 0 bull***** and it has carried into this generation.

Exactly... some of our ‘champs’ haven’t fought anyone, the heavyweight champ of 40 odd fights has only fought 3 live bodies, and he lost and drew 2 of those.

That simply would never be able to happen, the same with Tank, people getting excited about him fighting a small boxer who isn’t a big puncher?

[TMLT87]

Highest grossing PPV’s of all time. Every single one of them is boxing. UFC still haven’t topped the numbers Mike did in the 90’s, they haven’t even topped the numbers Ray and Hagler did in the 80’s. That’s how far behind they are...

You're clinging to the distant past rather expectedly.

Heres a sample of the top drawing PPVs in the 5 years since Floyd/Pac...


Conor/Khabib - 2.4m
Conor/Diaz 2 - 1.6m
Canelo/GGG 1 - 1.3m
Conor/Diaz 1 - 1.3m
Conor/Alvarez - 1.3m
Usman/Masvidal - 1.3m
Fury/Wilder 2 - 1.2m
Conor/Aldo - 1.2m
Canelo/GGG 2 - 1.1m
Ronda/Holm - 1.1m
Ronda/Nunes - 1.1m
Canelo/JCC jr - 1m
UFC 200 - 1m
Conor/Cerrone - 1m
Canelo/Cotto - 900k
GSP/Bisping - 875k
Jones/DC 2 - 860k
Jones/Gus 2 - 700k
Adesanya/Costa - 700k
Ferguson/Gaethje - 700k
Jones/Smith - 650k
Canelo/Khan - 600k
Pac/Thurman - 500k
Stipe/DC 3 - 500k

[PRINCEKOOL]

You're clinging to the distant past rather expectedly.

Heres a sample of the top drawing PPVs in the 5 years since Floyd/Pac...


Conor/Khabib - 2.4m
Conor/Diaz 2 - 1.6m
Canelo/GGG 1 - 1.3m
Conor/Diaz 1 - 1.3m
Conor/Alvarez - 1.3m
Usman/Masvidal - 1.3m
Fury/Wilder 2 - 1.2m
Conor/Aldo - 1.2m
Canelo/GGG 2 - 1.1m
Ronda/Holm - 1.1m
Ronda/Nunes - 1.1m
Canelo/JCC jr - 1m
UFC 200 - 1m
Conor/Cerrone - 1m
Canelo/Cotto - 900k
GSP/Bisping - 875k
Jones/DC 2 - 860k
Jones/Gus 2 - 700k
Adesanya/Costa - 700k
Ferguson/Gaethje - 700k
Jones/Smith - 650k
Canelo/Khan - 600k
Pac/Thurman - 500k
Stipe/DC 3 - 500k

I have seen a long list of British Boxing pay per views, that produced those sort of numbers i.e close to 1 million etc

But anyway, I don't usually get off on the numbers game 'Some boxing/ufc people seem to get really excited by statistics'.

[TMLT87]

I have seen a long list of British Boxing pay per views, that was doing those sort of numbers i.e close to 1 million etc

They're sold for the equivalent of like $25 over there and are pretty much all exclusively on PPV in that one boxing crazed market. UFC ppvs cost $65. 1m buys in the UK is the equivalent of slightly under 400k US buys in terms of revenue. Thats why AJs drawing power gets grossly overstated.

[Marchegiano]

Funny how these guys who never post **** come alive for MMA cards.

Did y'all miss Teo vs Loma or not give a ****? That was a great night of free fights and it just happened.

I don't suspect y'all are boxing fans. I don't know why MMA b**** come here to talk their MMA nonsense, but they always have, and I am sure this is just the new form of the same old ****.

A decade ago boxing was going to be dead because MMA is so, so, great. Not happened yet.

Now it's "I is boxing fan too so my opinion should matter now". Dude, you're not a ****ing boxing fan.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

You're clinging to the distant past rather expectedly.

Heres a sample of the top drawing PPVs in the 5 years since Floyd/Pac...


Conor/Khabib - 2.4m
Conor/Diaz 2 - 1.6m
Canelo/GGG 1 - 1.3m
Conor/Diaz 1 - 1.3m
Conor/Alvarez - 1.3m
Usman/Masvidal - 1.3m
Fury/Wilder 2 - 1.2m
Conor/Aldo - 1.2m
Canelo/GGG 2 - 1.1m
Ronda/Holm - 1.1m
Ronda/Nunes - 1.1m
Canelo/JCC jr - 1m
UFC 200 - 1m
Conor/Cerrone - 1m
Canelo/Cotto - 900k
GSP/Bisping - 875k
Jones/DC 2 - 860k
Jones/Gus 2 - 700k
Adesanya/Costa - 700k
Ferguson/Gaethje - 700k
Jones/Smith - 650k
Canelo/Khan - 600k
Pac/Thurman - 500k
Stipe/DC 3 - 500k

Since Floyd-Pac which did over 4m. A number UFC will never come close too.

You also failed to include May-Conor a BOXING PPV which also broke 4m.

UFC is decades behind boxing, 80’s guys where making more money than current UFC fighters. UFC still hasn’t caught up to the numbers boxing set over 3 DECADES AGO.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Funny how these guys who never post **** come alive for MMA cards.

Did y'all miss Teo vs Loma or not give a ****? That was a great night of free fights and it just happened.

I don't suspect y'all are boxing fans. I don't know why MMA b**** come here to talk their MMA nonsense, but they always have, and I am sure this is just the new form of the same old ****.

A decade ago boxing was going to be dead because MMA is so, so, great. Not happened yet.

Now it's "I is boxing fan too so my opinion should matter now". Dude, you're not a ****ing boxing fan.

True...

I’d green you man but I think I’ve done it too recently.