Would you pick a young pretty boy floyd to beat this current Loma???

[QueensburyRules]

Floyd would have a tremendous height and reach advantage and it would be tough for Loma to close the distance. Also, Floyd had great feet and he was a sharper, more powerful puncher at 130.

Last but not least, Floyd started at 130 and went all the way up to 154 while Loma is already maxed out at 135.

Loma would have his moments but ultimately I see a chess match where Floyd would maintain distance with counter left hooks and straight rights. I say Floyd wins a competitive decision, 116-112

- -Fair summary but for we seen Floydy get whupped more than once.

He could do nothing but run and stink vs tiny Jesus Chavez.

Other than drug/weight cheat Salido and the always rehensible Laurence Cole tag team him in the dirtiest fight I've ever witnessed, Lomas been been awesome the way he makes fighters quit.

Poor AxeMan Walters still retired 4 yrs later and Rigormortis so embarrassed he's dropping to 118 trying to scare up a fight.

I'll pick Loma any day. Floydy was an Arum illusion that somehow blew up in the post Tyson thug era as their new hero.

[joseph5620]

Did you go to boxrec and count?

Okay. While I'm over here talking about champship level fights and similar competition feel free to add all the scrubs that Mayweather KOed before becoming a champion at that weight.

Oh yeah, does adding that information make your argument better or worse?

Mayweather had 13 championship bouts between 130-135.

Lomachenko has had 9 fights between 130-135.

Mayweather
3RTD/4KO/6UD

Lomachenko
4 RTD/3KO/2UD

Why am I only counting championship fights? Is it because I'm biased? No. Because championship ships fights should represent the best against the best.

Anyone can knock out a low level fighter. ANYONE. Its much harder to knock out a top 10 guy than a guy with 1 win and 13 losses.

If you dont think so feel free to keep feeling butt hurt and brag that Mayweather easily knocked out guys like that.

I don't need to use box rec for things like that. I was actually around during that era to see it myself. You clearly weren't which is why you're resorting to lying. That's what people do when they don't know what they're talking about.



You said Mayweather had little power at 130-135. Now you're trying to change the narrative to "championship fights" because you got caught in a lie. The fact that you're considering fighters Mayweather stopped like Genero Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Diego Corrales "scrubs" exposes you as a casual that wasn't even watching boxing at the time. That's what happens when you depend on box rec with no knowledge of what you're looking at.



There is no pain on this side. These are facts and an observation. So you can stop projecting now.

[joseph5620]

- -Fair summary but for we seen Floydy get whupped more than once.

He could do nothing but run and stink vs tiny Jesus Chavez.

Other than drug/weight cheat Salido and the always rehensible Laurence Cole tag team him in the dirtiest fight I've ever witnessed, Lomas been been awesome the way he makes fighters quit.

Poor AxeMan Walters still retired 4 yrs later and Rigormortis so embarrassed he's dropping to 118 trying to scare up a fight.

I'll pick Loma any day. Floydy was an Arum illusion that somehow blew up in the post Tyson thug era as their new hero.

Another lie. Where's the running?

[Boxing Goat]

Loma would clown Floyd

Floyd would have to rely on a decision and as the amateur records show, he would not out-point Loma

[Boxing Goat]

Who has Lomachenko fought like Mayweather?

Rigondeaux (overall skill-wise)

[Long jabber]

Floyd was just as fast if not faster. Floyd is the masterclass boxer rigo thinks he is

[joseph5620]

Rigondeaux (overall skill-wise)

No. Rigondeaux is not and has never been on Mayweather's level. On top of that he was far too small for Lomachenko.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I don't need to use box rec for things like that. I was actually around during that era to see it myself. You clearly weren't which is why you're resorting to lying. That's what people do when they don't know what they're talking about.



You said Mayweather had little power at 130-135. Now you're trying to change the narrative to "championship fights" because you got caught in a lie. The fact that you're considering fighters Mayweather stopped like Genero Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Diego Corrales "scrubs" exposes you as a casual that wasn't even watching boxing at the time. That's what happens when you depend on box rec with no knowledge of what you're looking at.



There is no pain on this side. These are facts and an observation. So you can stop projecting now.

Im pretty sure I never said he had little power but you guys act like he was just knocking guys out left and right.

Did Mayweather have good power at that weight? Yes! But it was nt something extraordinary nor was it what sold him. Mayweather won with boxing first.

If Mayweather had so much power why are his wins similar to that of Lomachenko? No one considers Lomachenko a guy who's "so good because he had power in both hands" do we?

So saying Mayweather would win because said fact is ludicrous. "Mayweather would knock out Lomachenko because he has power in both hands" is RIDICULOUS.

[joseph5620]

Im pretty sure I never said he had little power but you guys act like he was just knocking guys out left and right.

Did Mayweather have good power at that weight? Yes! But it was nt something extraordinary nor was it what sold him. Mayweather won with boxing first.

If Mayweather had so much power why are his wins similar to that of Lomachenko? No one considers Lomachenko a guy who's "so good because he had power in both hands" do we?

So saying Mayweather would win because said fact is ludicrous. "Mayweather would knock out Lomachenko because he has power in both hands" is RIDICULOUS.

I'm pretty sure you did say that.

This is exactly the truth.

People imagine some mega Floyd pumped full of his entire careers experience downloaded into his 130lb self.

That's not true.

Its also not true that Loma at 135 is the same fighter as he was at 130. Loma is on record saying that his training has changed for each division hes fought. 126 more speed. 135 more power.

If it was on neutral grounds I'd pick Loma to win by UD. I just think he brings a lot to the table and a lot of guys Floyd fought didnt.

Oh yeah, sure Floyd is a master adapter and he has the reach but thats not how he fought at 130-135 and imo his run wasn't overly impressive. People say "pretty boy" was power in both hands but his record doesn't back that up. If Floyd at 130-135 had so much power in his hands Loma looks like a KO artist in comparison.

If this was real life and Lomachenko and Floyd existed in the same division at the same time Floyd would NEVER fought Lomachenko.

Floyd had a very good habit of making excuses and avoiding the fight when the time was right.

"Loma isn't a draw."
"Loma is a nobody"
"He can fight me a 140"

No one in this thread said "Mayweather would KO Lomachenko because he had KO power in both hands." So you can try the deflections and straw man arguments with someone that doesn't know any better. I'm not the one.


Where are Mayweather's wins at 130-135 as impressive as Lomachenko's? Are you kidding? Diego Corrales by itself is more impressive than any win on Lomachenko's resume.



You said Mayweather didn't have power at 130-135. You claimed he only stopped scrubs at those weights. Those are false statements. Nothing more to it than that. End of story.

[Boxing Goat]

No. Rigondeaux is not and has never been on Mayweather's level. On top of that he was far too small for Lomachenko.

Based on what? He was a way more successful amateur than Floyd.

And regarding size, wasn't ODLH and Margarito way too big for Manny too?

Think about those things