Would you pick a young pretty boy floyd to beat this current Loma???

[whollisboxing]

During that time Floyd was a bit green so I go with Lomachenko

Floyd won his first world title in 1998 and the Corrales fight was in 2001. He was far from green

[whollisboxing]

just as green as teo is at this point.......

Floyd had been a world champion for three years by the time he fought Corrales, Teo just won his title

[whollisboxing]

Absolute 50/50 IMO. Both were so dominant at 130 it’s hard to analyse any weakness in either.

I’d probably give the slightest of edges to Mayweather purely because he always found a way to win, but I could easily see either winning a close decision.

Floyd would have a tremendous height and reach advantage and it would be tough for Loma to close the distance. Also, Floyd had great feet and he was a sharper, more powerful puncher at 130.

Last but not least, Floyd started at 130 and went all the way up to 154 while Loma is already maxed out at 135.

Loma would have his moments but ultimately I see a chess match where Floyd would maintain distance with counter left hooks and straight rights. I say Floyd wins a competitive decision, 116-112

[Tails]

Hell of a fight from a strategic standpoint from two very quick fighters.

Mayweather was very impressive at 130 but is nowhere close to the talent he would develop into at the higher weights.

I would lean Mayweather to win that fight in a 7-5 split. Lomachenko presents a very unique challenge to a pre prime Mayweather

[_original_]

I pick Mayweather but that would be the ultimate chess match, out of this world in terms of skills. Kasporov VS Fischer.

[whollisboxing]

This is exactly the truth.

People imagine some mega Floyd pumped full of his entire careers experience downloaded into his 130lb self.

That's not true.

Its also not true that Loma at 135 is the same fighter as he was at 130. Loma is on record saying that his training has changed for each division hes fought. 126 more speed. 135 more power.

If it was on neutral grounds I'd pick Loma to win by UD. I just think he brings a lot to the table and a lot of guys Floyd fought didnt.

Oh yeah, sure Floyd is a master adapter and he has the reach but thats not how he fought at 130-135 and imo his run wasn't overly impressive. People say "pretty boy" was power in both hands but his record doesn't back that up. If Floyd at 130-135 had so much power in his hands Loma looks like a KO artist in comparison.

If this was real life and Lomachenko and Floyd existed in the same division at the same time Floyd would NEVER fought Lomachenko.

Floyd had a very good habit of making excuses and avoiding the fight when the time was right.

"Loma isn't a draw."
"Loma is a nobody"
"He can fight me a 140"

I think of one fight in particular when I imagine Mayweather-Lomachenko: Floyd's fight with Emmanuel Augustus.

I know it's not a perfect comparison but Augustus is the most similar Mayweather opponent that I can think of. Not as far as skill level but in terms of being unorthodox and I think Loma would fight Floyd in a similar way that Augustus did. Augustus pressed the action and was willing to eat punches to do it, and although Mayweather scored a late stoppage, he often called Augustus one of his toughest opponents.

As for Floyd's power, I looked at his record and he scored 19 of his 27 career KO's at 130.

Also, a 7-inch reach advantage can't be ignored, even if Floyd wasn't as defensive as he was later in his career. If anything that helps his offense too and it's not like Mayweather was getting hit all the time at 130 either.

Now in fairness to Loma, he did overcome a significant reach disadvantage against Nicholas Walters so I'm not saying Loma couldn't have success in the fight.

Either way it would be a great fight and for me I can see more ways for Floyd to win than I can for Loma.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I think of one fight in particular when I imagine Mayweather-Lomachenko: Floyd's fight with Emmanuel Augustus.

I know it's not a perfect comparison but Augustus is the most similar Mayweather opponent that I can think of. Not as far as skill level but in terms of being unorthodox and I think Loma would fight Floyd in a similar way that Augustus did. Augustus pressed the action and was willing to eat punches to do it, and although Mayweather scored a late stoppage, he often called Augustus one of his toughest opponents.

As for Floyd's power, I looked at his record and he scored 19 of his 27 career KO's at 130.

Also, a 7-inch reach advantage can't be ignored, even if Floyd wasn't as defensive as he was later in his career. If anything that helps his offense too and it's not like Mayweather was getting hit all the time at 130 either.

Now in fairness to Loma, he did overcome a significant reach disadvantage against Nicholas Walters so I'm not saying Loma couldn't have success in the fight.

Either way it would be a great fight and for me I can see more ways for Floyd to win than I can for Loma.

I think what it comes down to is styles.

When I was talking about Floyds power at 130 I was more considering his run as a champion and not many of the fights prior. I believe this was the time his hands were breaking down too.

Moneys style imo would present a bigger challenge to Lomachenko than PBF.

Lomachenko enjoys when people bring the fight to him because hes an aggressive counter puncher. He mentally drains those guys much quicker because he's able to take them out of their game and make them play his.

Most of those guys can't fight on their back foot and lack the boxing IQ to adapt. That's why eventually in every fight even against bigger guys he ends up walking them down.

Even in his fight against Salido even though he started to impose his will late he was dominant at the end.

Money would have annoyed Loma to no end and would force Loma to come in because Money doesn't play offense. He always bets safe and he has the tools to keep Loma at bay.

That being said I just think that Lomachenko is the kind of guy who rises to the challenge and wants to push himself to 100% and Floyd isnt that kind of guy.

Proof? How they managed their careers.

Floyd always said he was going to retire from boxing and not have it retire him. Lomachenko would rather die in the ring than quit.

Floyd always protected himself. Loma has always looked for the best. At least that's how I see it.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Floyd would have a tremendous height and reach advantage and it would be tough for Loma to close the distance. Also, Floyd had great feet and he was a sharper, more powerful puncher at 130.

Last but not least, Floyd started at 130 and went all the way up to 154 while Loma is already maxed out at 135.

Loma would have his moments but ultimately I see a chess match where Floyd would maintain distance with counter left hooks and straight rights. I say Floyd wins a competitive decision, 116-112

I dunno man, the height and reach thing is usually a moot point with Loma. He’s always disadvantaged that way but he utilises his smaller stature to create acute angles.

I don’t think pretty boy Floyd would approach this like a chess match either. Floyd was far more aggressive at 130. I think he’d box on the front foot for considerable stretches and would put it on Loma, looking to land combinations instead of single shot counters.

I’d be so interested to see who’s footwork would be more effective in this one, both guys move/moved flawlessly. I could see that being a pivotal factor.

[joseph5620]

This is exactly the truth.

People imagine some mega Floyd pumped full of his entire careers experience downloaded into his 130lb self.

That's not true.

Its also not true that Loma at 135 is the same fighter as he was at 130. Loma is on record saying that his training has changed for each division hes fought. 126 more speed. 135 more power.

If it was on neutral grounds I'd pick Loma to win by UD. I just think he brings a lot to the table and a lot of guys Floyd fought didnt.

Oh yeah, sure Floyd is a master adapter and he has the reach but thats not how he fought at 130-135 and imo his run wasn't overly impressive. People say "pretty boy" was power in both hands but his record doesn't back that up. If Floyd at 130-135 had so much power in his hands Loma looks like a KO artist in comparison.

If this was real life and Lomachenko and Floyd existed in the same division at the same time Floyd would NEVER fought Lomachenko.

Floyd had a very good habit of making excuses and avoiding the fight when the time was right.

"Loma isn't a draw."
"Loma is a nobody"
"He can fight me a 140"

Mayweather has more KO's at 130-35 then Lomachenko's total number of fights. So you're lying there.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Mayweather has more KO's at 130-35 then Lomachenko's total number of fights. So you're lying there.

Did you go to boxrec and count?

Okay. While I'm over here talking about champship level fights and similar competition feel free to add all the scrubs that Mayweather KOed before becoming a champion at that weight.

Oh yeah, does adding that information make your argument better or worse?

Mayweather had 13 championship bouts between 130-135.

Lomachenko has had 9 fights between 130-135.

Mayweather
3RTD/4KO/6UD

Lomachenko
4 RTD/3KO/2UD

Why am I only counting championship fights? Is it because I'm biased? No. Because championship ships fights should represent the best against the best.

Anyone can knock out a low level fighter. ANYONE. Its much harder to knock out a top 10 guy than a guy with 1 win and 13 losses.

If you dont think so feel free to keep feeling butt hurt and brag that Mayweather easily knocked out guys like that.