Is Rocky Marciano as respected as he should be?

[KingOfGlory]

His best win was vs a old, poor and destitute Louis.

He is given too much credit. He retired as young as he did with only a handful of defenses because he knew his time was up.

He knocked out Moore, Walcott, and Charles who are considered greats. The dead era that came after him proves nobody was beating him anytime soon.

And it's not really fair to call retiring at 32 "young" and 37 "old".

[BodyBagz]

He knocked out Moore, Walcott, and Charles who are considered greats. The dead era that came after him proves nobody was beating him anytime soon.

And it's not really fair to call retiring at 32 "young" and 37 "old".

Sheesh, was anyone near prime when Rocky beat them ?

Edit -
Rocky did beat a prime Ali

[Roadblock]

He knocked out Moore, Walcott, and Charles who are considered greats. The dead era that came after him proves nobody was beating him anytime soon.

And it's not really fair to call retiring at 32 "young" and 37 "old".

Look beyond name value they were shot at career end and Moore was a LH. I think Moore may have been stopped by every HW he fought.

[ShoulderRoll]

Jersey Joe Walcott and Archie Moore were 38 years old.

Ezzard Charles was a light heavyweight. And he was never the same after having caused Sam Baroudi to die of a brain hemorrhage 3 years earlier.

[buge]

I say the same thing about padded records any time I see it. Including Canelo.

I read you say something in another reply in this thread that Joe Louis was a good win because that was only his 2nd loss. I can’t even refute that because that’s so wrong.

Joe Louis was the betting favorite in the Marciano fight. He wasn't considered totally washed up, or bookies would've lost their shirts.

[ShoulderRoll]

Joe Louis was 37 years old.

[strykr619]

If anything Marciano's record looks better now then it did before...

[Roadblock]

If anything Marciano's record looks better now then it did before...

How do you figure that out when today we have hindsight and perspective.

Louis was beat by Charles then had 10 fights in a year sometimes twice in a month , he was shot to **** and fed bums and then Rocky , the public is as easy fooled today as it was back then .

The reality is fans for the most part know fck all about the sport they are spoon fed hype and BS and they are eager to feed.

[hugh grant]

You can't force things just because of unbeaten record. Mike tyson.might scare people more so will rate Tyson higher

[-Kev-]

Joe Louis was the betting favorite in the Marciano fight. He wasn't considered totally washed up, or bookies would've lost their shirts.

51 year old, past prime Bernard Hopkins was favored to beat the younger Joe Smith Jr. Those odds can’t be used to say Smith Jr fought a formidable version of Hopkins. Ever. Odds can’t change at what stage a fighter is.

Odds don’t prevent someone from being way past it. If anything if Louis was really favored at 37 and with mental health issues over the younger and fresher Marciano, it says more about Marciano than it does about Louis.

Here is an example fantasy fight:

If Manny Pacquiao fights Danny Garcia next month, he would be favored, probably by a pretty wide margin. However, Pacquiao is past prime. People/odds makers don’t care how past it he is. He’s Manny Pacquiao. Pacquiao is an ATG, HOF’er, has better wins, and will retire as being tons better than DSG. But then DSG KO’’s him, catches him off guard in an exchange. Pacquiao goes out cold. Pacquiao announced his retirement from the sport after the fight.

Literally no boxing fan on Earth would end up caring about that outcome. And no, Pacquiao being favored didn’t mean he was still a good opponent. It just would mean that people thought so lowly of DSG and so highly of Pacquiao, that they didn’t think that DSG could beat even a way past prime version of Pacquiao. But look at that, DSG proved everyone wrong in this fantasy fight. He actually was able to beat the past prime HOF’er that would have wiped the floor with him as far back as 5-10 years ago. Round of applause for DSG for beating a Pacquiao who was a shell of his former self.