Erik Morales vs Juan Manuel Marquez

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  • psychopath
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    #51
    Originally posted by JoartCC2
    This is what a "green" PAC did to JMM. lols!

    I would shudder to think what PAC will do to JMM now. Probably chop off his head. JMM's face got rearranged here for sure. And guys like xcaret and ferocity say JMM schooled PAC. lols! Take a good look at JMM's face.

    Morales via UD in this one. If MOrales opts to pressure, JMM is dead, MOrales will simply walk through JMM's punches.

    HEY dude that picture you are showing is the face of JMM coming off from the Terdsak fight, that is not JMM's picture after the Pac fight. You seems to be lost that's why I'm pointing that out to you.

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    • JoartCC2
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      #52
      Originally posted by psychopath
      HEY dude that picture you are showing is the face of JMM coming off from the Terdsak fight, that is not JMM's picture after the Pac fight. You seems to be lost that's why I'm pointing that out to you.
      Ahh. Well, that only further stregthens it. lols!

      If Terdsak can do this to JMM. One only needs a lil imagination to think what would happen to JMM with PAC in the ring now.

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      • chito
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        #53
        i would still favor EM to win, 60-40.

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        • ferocity
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          #54
          Originally posted by mr. bojangles
          "New" J.M.Marquez? or you mean Sytles-Makes-Fights?


          Chris John was a very slick boxer who simply don't want to engage, relying mostly on his long jabs and out he goes on his bike. Ditto Derrick Gainer who made a Forrest Gump-like performance vs. JMM.

          Terdsak Jandaeng was a come-forward, pressure, no movement, monument standing in front of him, not afraid to get hit in order to land his bombs.

          It's not the "new" Marquez that fought Jandaeng, pressure fighters not afraid to mix it up will always make JMM look good. Watch the Peden, Licona, Medina and Pacquiao fights.

          Slick boxing is the antidote for counterpunching, John and Gainer will always make JMM look ordinary.

          Styles makes fights.
          I watched all those fights you mentioned except maybe Licona. And the Marquez i saw against Terdsak was more effect and dangerous, but you are right styles make fights. But i didn't thinkg Gainer or Medina made Marquez look like ****.

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          • ferocity
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            #55
            Originally posted by loui_ludwig
            What do u mean when Barrera left boxingz?
            You don't remember? He left boxing for almost a year and almost thought of never coming back after they robbed him in Jones v. Barrera II.

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            • ferocity
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              #56
              Originally posted by psychopath
              Nopes Bro, of course Barrera can counter punch but his degree and effectiveness as a counter puncher is way far from JMMs. Counter puching is JMMs ONLY bread and butter while MAB can be a slugger, a boxer and also a counter puncher at times.
              Ignorant post.

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                #57
                Originally posted by ELPacman
                Oh yeah that reminded me, one more thing. JMM hasn't been nearly in the wars Morales has. His body hasn't taken nearly the beating Morales has. Saying JMM's first true war was against Manny can be saying just how green Marquez is with going into all out wars. He did great on his first one though.

                Marquez has had other tough fight from the Great Western Fourm days. But of course nobody knocked him down 3 times and besides the 3 kd's it was all marquez.

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                • ferocity
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by JoartCC2
                  This is what a "green" PAC did to JMM. lols!

                  I would shudder to think what PAC will do to JMM now. Probably chop off his head. JMM's face got rearranged here for sure. And guys like xcaret and ferocity say JMM schooled PAC. lols! Take a good look at JMM's face.

                  Morales via UD in this one. If MOrales opts to pressure, JMM is dead, MOrales will simply walk through JMM's punches.
                  Those pictures aren't from the pacquiao fight, those are from his fight with Terdsak a fighter he tko'd. Your a newbie to boxing, boxers get bruised, you want safty go play golf.

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                  • ferocity
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                    a few years ago i'd pick Erik Morales without much doubt.

                    Today i can not. Marquez is not as battle worn as Erik Morales is. Erik is a guy that basically captured his first title at 21 and for most of the decade went one after another after another of fighting the best fighters he could. War after war against great fighters. Taking and receiving with everyone and fights of the year candidate after candiate.

                    Marquez has been more dormant and has less wear than Morales.

                    Marquez might be the older man in age, but in the world of Boxing Erik Morales is the grandpa, and Marquez the young hungry fighter.
                    Perfectly said, would have been great to see them when they were both younger, still a tough call.

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                    • mr. bojangles
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ferocity
                      I watched all those fights you mentioned except maybe Licona. And the Marquez i saw against Terdsak was more effect and dangerous, but you are right styles make fights. But i didn't thinkg Gainer or Medina made Marquez look like ****.

                      I said (Chris) John, not Medina, Mantecas' pressure and volume flyswatter punching made JMM look impressive, a devastating counterpuncher. Gainer simply refused to fight, he made JMM chase him around the ring and miss a lot of punches.

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