Erik Morales vs Juan Manuel Marquez

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  • mr. bojangles
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    #61
    Originally posted by ferocity
    Perfectly said, would have been great to see them when they were both younger, still a tough call.


    I agree.


    Both Barrera and Morales, IMO, silently ignored JMM. Hamed shamelessly ducked him. They knew Marquez' style combined with his near-flawless technical proficiency, is a difficult puzzle to solve. JMM is like a porcupine, in the business side - he's simply a high risk/low reward fighter. He was the 'avoided one' during those days.

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    • ferocity
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      #62
      Originally posted by mr. bojangles
      I agree.


      Both Barrera and Morales, IMO, silently ignored JMM. Hamed shamelessly ducked him. They knew Marquez' style combined with his near-flawless technical proficiency, is a difficult puzzle to solve. JMM is like a porcupine, in the business side - he's simply a high risk/low reward fighter. He was the 'avoided one' during those days.

      I wouldn't go as far as saying he was avoided by morales or barrera because marquez himself had some set-backs to put him back in the starting circle.

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      • mr. bojangles
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        #63
        Originally posted by ferocity
        I wouldn't go as far as saying he was avoided by morales or barrera because marquez himself had some set-backs to put him back in the starting circle.

        I always have that Q at the back of my mind, why didn't they fight Marquez all those years?

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        • ferocity
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          #64
          Originally posted by mr. bojangles
          I always have that Q at the back of my mind, why didn't they fight Marquez all those years?
          I like all three fighters. I followed Barrera and Marquez almost at the same time, with Marquez shortly followed by Barrera then Morales.

          Barrera was doing his thing first at jr. bantamweight then moved up cause he couldn't get a title shot.

          Marquez that i remember I could be wrong was always a featherweight. And doing his thing.

          Barrera ONLY moved up to featherweight to face Morales.

          Morales started at jr. featherweight probably even lower but i started watching him as a jr. featherweight.

          Marquez during Morales and Barreras reign was always known as a good fighter with the WBO title, he gets a title shot, at featherweight champion Freddy Norwood and loses a split deciciosn very contraversal.

          Whilw Morales and Barrera i think were still jr. featherweights, so when Morales moved up Marquez wasn't an option to fight cause he wasn't making noise. I think a lot of his fights he just did his thing and keep winning but nothing like Morles or Barrrera. While both had been fighting top fighters.

          Marquez problem is that -i remember- Marquez never officially chanllenged Morale or Barrera and he was on tv a lot. But again not looking as impressive as Morales or Barrrera most of the time.

          Basicly Marquez at one time or another always had a set back in his career.

          If the Morles offer to Marquez is true well... thats just Marquez fault for not fighting Morales.

          When Morales wins, Marquez should make a lot of noise. As Marquez should have after his win over Terdsak.

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          • miron_lang
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            #65
            JMM or proly nacho must get their heads in place.


            rejecting the 750K is a big blunder so is the Morales offer if its true.


            PAC will earn $3M againts Morales BUT before that, he got only $750K for destroying MAB. see the point?


            he should accept a MEGA fight regardless of PAY because he's not calling the shots.

            lets say he accepted the Morales or even the PAC offer and win them, he'll get the money he deserved in his succeding bouts proly againts barrera or either pac or EM.

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            • psychopath
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              #66
              Originally posted by ferocity
              Ignorant post.
              Ignorant dumbass? Remove the ****i'n hatred from brain scumbag and let it function. Stop pretending you know boxing.

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              • SnoopySmurf
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                #67
                Originally posted by mr. bojangles
                Slick boxing is the antidote for counterpunching, John and Gainer will always make JMM look ordinary.

                Styles makes fights.
                But Gainer lost to JMM. I think you meant Freddie Norwood.

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                • Tata Moran
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                  #68
                  If they fight now I go with JMM

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                  • Katz
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by mr. bojangles
                    I agree.


                    Both Barrera and Morales, IMO, silently ignored JMM. Hamed shamelessly ducked him. They knew Marquez' style combined with his near-flawless technical proficiency, is a difficult puzzle to solve. JMM is like a porcupine, in the business side - he's simply a high risk/low reward fighter. He was the 'avoided one' during those days.

                    correction: AVOIDING JUAN

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                    • loui_ludwig
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by ferocity
                      You don't remember? He left boxing for almost a year and almost thought of never coming back after they robbed him in Jones v. Barrera II.
                      Didn't know about that, thanks for the info.

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