My confidence in Joshua has gone down drastically

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  • deathofaclown
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    #41
    My view on AJ is that he’s certainly one of the best heavyweights but even before the Ruiz fight, I always said i don’t think it’ll take a top notch fighter to beat him, just a good fighter having a good night.

    I don’t feel total certainty he’s going to beat top 15 guys when he fights them, because I think he’s definitely beatable against that level of fighter. Anyone is of course, but I mean I don’t rate him significantly higher than those guys.

    I’m reality I don’t put him up there with Fury. I think Fury is up there on his own and then AJ is somewhere between Fury and the likes of Povetkin.

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    • Mister Dad
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      #42
      I agree. It was pretty funny seeing aj run from ruiz who was the heaviest and out of shape hes ever been

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      • baroidi
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        #43
        lol people actually impressed by Joshua running from an obese Mexican who didn't even bother training? This just shows Joshua and his people knows he's limited and his chin is very vulnerable. Lewis in his redemption matches did not need to shy away from engaging, he went for the kill because he was confident in his abilities.

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        • hugh grant
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          #44
          I think Josh is ok. Talking about not being scared of fury

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          • W1LL
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            #45


            Time-stamped, Tyson Fury imparting great wisdom on why AJ is, and always will be, a quitter.

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            • HandsofIron
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              #46
              Originally posted by Kezzer
              On the flip side I would argue he has shown has ability to adapt his style to the opponent in a different way. Was he gun shy or panic in that rematch - not at all. He outboxed Ruiz and chose not to change approach given he was winning the fight.

              Go through fury’s last 5/6 fights and compare to AJ and show me how fury has looked a better fighter on aggregrate. You will struggle.
              Fury still is undefeated while AJ got KO'ed by a fat slob. AJ did avenge his loss but it wasn't a statement and there were moments in the rematch where Ruiz clipped AJ and would freak out in response.

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              • The plunger man
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                #47
                Originally posted by denium
                People need to stop with this Wallin myth.

                He did not nearly beat Fury, he won 2 rounds at best against a man with one eye.

                In that same situation with a similar cut, AJ would've quit like he did against Ruiz.

                The Wallin performance is just another string in Fury's bow.
                wallin wouldn’t last 4 rounds with Joshua ...he would be left battered on the canvas...not even top 15 lol

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                • Earl-Hickey
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  Everyone here knows I basically introduced AJ to this forum when he was ABA champion.

                  He lived up to my expectations for a long time and then some, but I feel like his last two performances were horrible. But it wasn't like it was new..

                  He didn't look good against Takam or Parker either, and whilst the Povetkin fight was a decent one, even that wasn't without troubles.

                  At first I looked past it, but I've begun to see a pattern.

                  Seeing him run around from the fat mexican still is a bit embarrassing imo. Despite him needing to do whatever he needed to do.

                  Just a bit comical to see such a big guy afraid of exchanging with a small chubby guy.

                  Where's your confidence in AJ currently?
                  Pretty much the same as you

                  I also was "unimpressed" with him vs Parker, Takam (Povetkin was a bit better) but I sort of wrote it off.

                  Both Ruiz performances really worried me.

                  My main concern is I honestly don't think he's become a better fighter since the klitschko fight, which was what I thought would happen.

                  I also thought prior to Ruiz 2 that maybe he had trouble "getting up" for fights he was expected to easily win, but the second Ruiz fight was the main one which really got me thinking.

                  Now I do bust his balls a lot, but I think Joshua is far from useless, I still think his power is very real, and his finishing instincts are great, obviously he has good physical tools. He is still championship level.

                  But I also can't ignore his flaws and shortcomings anymore, he's a vulnerable fighter, you are going to wince any time an opponent throws a power shot in his direction, and his stamina is poor.

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                  • QueensburyRules
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    Everyone here knows I basically introduced AJ to this forum when he was ABA champion.

                    He lived up to my expectations for a long time and then some, but I feel like his last two performances were horrible. But it wasn't like it was new..

                    He didn't look good against Takam or Parker either, and whilst the Povetkin fight was a decent one, even that wasn't without troubles.

                    At first I looked past it, but I've begun to see a pattern.

                    Seeing him run around from the fat mexican still is a bit embarrassing imo. Despite him needing to do whatever he needed to do.

                    Just a bit comical to see such a big guy afraid of exchanging with a small chubby guy.

                    Where's your confidence in AJ currently?
                    - -Quite a bit more educated than your sad sack.

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                    • Tyistall
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                      #50
                      AJ typically ****s but chooses to box for once, and people all lose hope in him. Fury typically boxes, but chooses to **** for once and everyone over exaggerates him now. Go figure. I say AJ is still the best guy in the division and he will smash Fury by KO

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