Are there still posters who believe Wilder has concussive power?

[Lomasexual]

This thread should be put in a museum, a perfect example of how someone can hold a ****** belief and rationalise it to the death.

Once we understand how this process happens, and how to stop it, we will solve all of the world's problems.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Povetkin can also punch.

He knocks out 70-percent of the heavyweights he beats.

Interestingly Duhaupas took everything Wilder had before being stopped on his feet after a 37 punch combination

Povetkin put him soundly to sleep with one clean punch.

[MastaBlasta]

Why didn’t Wilder fight him then?

Wilder can’t even take a punch. Half his head would be caved in by Povetkin. Pillowfisted Fury dented his skull.

So, Povetkin takes Peds (at whatever level for whatever reason), which nixes the fight, but it's Wilders fault??

In truth Povetkin and Wilder are two dangerous guys. It's possible that either may have won the fight (guess we'll never know). I had that fight definitely at even money. But, Pov flunked the testing in his own country ...

So, speculate on ...

[MastaBlasta]

It has been mentioned on here many times 'That Wilder hits hard but? His power has limited application and variation. Most of Wilder's power shots are wide punches, he struggles to throw straight punches, and is challenged by the idea of short compact punches etc'.

Nonsense ... go review the Ortiz and Breazeale fights. Those weren't wide punches.

[Earl-Hickey]

Povetkin can also punch.

He knocks out 70-percent of the heavyweights he beats.

Yeah but when describing Povetkin it's "he can dig"

With Wilder it's "bah gawd almighty, with god as my witness this man is a monster, whatever he hits he destroys"

I think the difference in hype doesn't Warren the difference in reality

[Damn Wicked]

Fury was a lot heavier so he could absorb the punches more .Wilder has concussive power if he lands at the end of his punch with momentum behind it but that doesn’t mean he’s still the hardest puncher .Hes not the only one that put Fury down ,and actually Fury looked more stunned in the Cunningham fight so we don’t know if it’s the weight gain against Wilder or not.

One thing that is constantly proven is the myth Wilder only needs one punch and the fight is over ,are most on here really watching his fights ? He struggles in almost all of them .

Interestingly Duhaupas took everything Wilder had before being stopped on his feet after a 37 punch combination

Povetkin put him soundly to sleep with one clean punch.

I agree with both these statements. There's proof that Wilder is a very hard puncher but there is no proof that he's the hardest puncher in history, nor even the hardest puncher among current heavyweights. He does swing with everything he's got though, and that's why he often throws himself off balance. You didn't see guys like the Klitschko bros, Lennox, Ali, Joshua and many other top heavyweights throwing their whole body into shots and consequently falling off balance. The technically sound fighters throw their power with the intent to maintain defensive integrity.

[Earl-Hickey]

I agree with both these statements. There's proof that Wilder is a very hard puncher but there is no proof that he's the hardest puncher in history, nor even the hardest puncher among current heavyweights. He does swing with everything he's got though, and that's why he often throws himself off balance. You didn't see guys like the Klitschko bros, Lennox, Ali, Joshua and many other top heavyweights throwing their whole body into shots and consequently falling off balance. The technically sound fighters throw their power with the intent to maintain defensive integrity.

I'll give Wilder credit in that he is usually able to land those crazy shots where he loads up with absoloutley everything and gets the guy out of it.

But yeah I prefer punchers like Wlad, Lewis, Foreman etc who could ko guys with almost effortless looking clean shots, Povetkin is in that category to a lesser degree. Where they just slip and counter and BAM, Iced.

Those guys never NEEDED to hurl massive haymaker like Wilder does because they weren't miles down on the cards in every fight, so they weren't panicking like he does.


I mean who hits harder, those guys who didn't even need to load up to ice you, or Wilder who almost throws himself off the floor to do the same

[techliam]

Look, I'm not a Wilder cheerleader. But Povetkin was about to be knocked out by overrated Dillian Whyte before uncorking the fabulous uppercut that saved his day.

Therefore I can see Wilder catching Povetkin quite soon and putting him to definitive sleep within three.

A bit more difficult to do when Wilder has literally zero inside game. Wilder would have to be on his bicycle

It’s why Wilder/Whyte is such a toss up still. Whyte’s clear weakness is his inside game. Wilders strength isn’t that

[TMLT87]

For all his faults, Wilders right hand is one of the most devastating single shots in boxing history.

[Tatabanya]

I can`t see that. I think Povetkin stops Wilder by uppercut. Wilder has even worse defense than Whyte.

The Wilder of now, I can agree with you because his psyche has probably been damaged.

The pre-Fury Wilder, I'm not that sure. I think Wilder would have caught him first, even considering his worse defense.

It would have been an interesting fight.