Comments Thread For: Hearn Wants Whyte-Povetkin II To Happen in Late November, Explains Why

[elfag]

Would he be cleared medically to be able to fight in November doe? Currently his licence would be suspended. He suffered a heavy KO. Head bouncing off the canvas. He would need to spar, train etc For November that would be impossible.

yeah it also said "get back in the ring in 2 weeks time", he got sparked out cold, he shouldnt be sparring for a month.

[elfag]

povetkin had no power to demand a rematch clause against aj he was the b side the challenger. same thing with whyte who was the house fighter and povetkin again the b side. the sanctioning bodies and their rankings have been a joke and laughing stock long before eddie hearn came on the scene. povetkin and his team obviously agreed to the rematch clause other wise he wouldn't have signed to fight whyte in the first place.

He can always threaten to retire to atleast get a higher purse.

[MaksBox]

Whyte and Hearn need to be careful what they wish for.

Povetkin will knock Whyte out again, probably sooner this time.

Very close to the truth...

In the Russian interviews this was discussed. Povetkin was training for that upper cut and the first few rounds he was frustrated that Whyte was being very defensive. The goal was to get that opening and knock him out.

IF Whyte goes into the rematch more aggresively, he just may get KO'ed earlier.

[kafkod]

Whyte, this cat has a peanut sized IQ. This dude held a lottery ticket in his hands for over a thousand days and didn't know what to do with it.

He refused to cash it in. I know that both Eddie Hearn, Mauricio Sulaiman, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua had all thrown him a lifeline in order to prevent him from self-destructing but it was to no avail.

Now his career is in shambles. He may never get that mandatory spot again and that window is closing very fast. This guy has rejected title offers from both Wilder and Joshua.

What's worse is that he rejected those offers to fight an almost 41 year old, weak, frail and shot Alexander Povetkin; Who was years beyond his prime and was KO by him, after previously dropping him to the canvas twice and didn't attempt to put him away.

I declare, this guy is a certifiable nutjob

Wait a minute! Hold your horses fanboy. Let's face some facts here. Wilder offered him a total of four title defenses on four different occasions but yet he refused all of them.

Let's go down the line; First Wilder said put Joshua's name on the same contract and I will give you a title defense but Whyte declined. Secondly, Wilder told Whyte to challenge Luis Ortiz and defeat him and I'll give you a shot at the title and yet once again Dillian Whyte declined the offer.

Thirdly, Wilder told him to come over and sign with the PBC and he would let him challenge him for his title but he rejected that offer also and lastly, Wilder told Whyte to fight his Final eliminator bout against Luiz Ortiz which was sanctioned by the WBC and then he would get his title shot but Dillian Whyte with his infinite wisdom turned that offer down as well.

So in closing, Wilder did all he could to try to prevent Whyte from jumping off a cliff. He tried everything in his power to save him from himself but Dillian was hard headed. He wouldn't heed any advice. He was his own worst enemy.

His loss to the aging cherrypicked Sasha Povetkin was a self-inflicted wound that could have been avoided. So he only has himself to blame.

Dillian turned down an offer from Wilder by sending Wilder an offer which didn't have Anthony Joshua's name on it?

I mean .. really?

First ... AJ and Wilder hadn't agreed terms to fight each other. So how could Whyte's offer to Wilder have included a guarantee for another fight that hadn't even been negotiated yet?

Second ... wouldn't that have been a multi-fight offer? And didn't Wilder say he would never accept a multi-fight offer from Hearn, under any circumstances?

The truth is that Whyte was never given any opportunity to fight Wilder during the whole 1000+ days that Dillian held the WBC No1 position.

The final eliminator he was offered against Ortiz was for the position of "second mandatory", which wouldn't have been ordered until at least a year after Wilder/Breazeale, by which time Wilder would no longer have held the WBC title.

[kafkod]

povetkin should tell "fast eddie" to screw off there is no way povetkin should fight that lardass again

Didn't you hear Povetkin thanking Eddie for the great opportunities he'd been given on Matchroom shows after his fight?

Sasha is 40 years old. He's making good money working with Hearn in the twilight of his career. Why would he want to turn down another PPV headline fight against a guy he's already beaten?

[MANNY67]

Because he's got a rematch clause?

Why would he push a rematch when your fighter wins?

I mean, do you think before you write this crap?

Yeah I think before I write and that’s y when all these hyped up match room boxers run into world class fights they loose, cause they are not tested, if a fight is close u have a rematch period!!!! Regardless of whom is the promoter.

[FairPlay]

I'm getting really sick of the way Boxingscene articles are written. Despite the title being "Hearn Wants Whyte-Povetkin II To Happen in Late November, Explains Why" the first two thirds of the article is just copy/paste of some earlier articles which have nothing to do with the title. If the writers really think that it is necessary to give some sort of introduction or context to the news, they can do it in a sentence or two and it will be quite enough. There is no need to have to go through ten paragraphs of copy/paste before you get to the actual thing you want to read about. And that seems to be the case for 90% of articles here which are artificially lengthened by copy/pasting earlier stuff.

[Toffee]

Yeah I think before I write and that’s y when all these hyped up match room boxers run into world class fights they loose, cause they are not tested, if a fight is close u have a rematch period!!!! Regardless of whom is the promoter.

So every close fight should have a rematch?

But you don't think the ones with an actual rematch clause in the contract should get one.

Sound logic. Let's see how that stands up when you're posting about non-Matchroom fighters.

[champion4ever]

Dillian turned down an offer from Wilder by sending Wilder an offer which didn't have Anthony Joshua's name on it?

I mean .. really?

First ... AJ and Wilder hadn't agreed terms to fight each other. So how could Whyte's offer to Wilder have included a guarantee for another fight that hadn't even been negotiated yet?

Second ... wouldn't that have been a multi-fight offer? And didn't Wilder say he would never accept a multi-fight offer from Hearn, under any circumstances?

The truth is that Whyte was never given any opportunity to fight Wilder during the whole 1000+ days that Dillian held the WBC No1 position.

The final eliminator he was offered against Ortiz was for the position of "second mandatory", which wouldn't have been ordered until at least a year after Wilder/Breazeale, by which time Wilder would no longer have held the WBC title.

So why should Wilder have fought Whyte other than for the money? He had absolutely nothing he wanted or nothing to prove by fighting him. It was the unified Heavyweight champion of the world Anthony Joshua at the time he sought not Dillian Whyte.

He avoided Whyte and for very good reason because he was su****ious of the offer. He knew that Dillian Whyte was only being used a buffer by Matchroom and Eddie Hearn to protect AJ from him.

That is why he requested that Joshua's signature be in writing on the contract as his next mandatory opponent; In the event he defeated Dillian Whyte. This way Dillian Whyte would have gotten what he wanted and Deontay Wilder would have gotten what he wanted because he didn't trust Matchroom or Eddie Hearn.

Besides, in Nov of 2017; Eddie Hearn attempted to finalize a Title elimination bout between Dominic Breazeale and Dillian Whyte on the undercard of Deontay Wilder vs Bermane Stiverne II. The bout was tentatively scheduled to determine Wilder's next mandatory challenger.

Dominic Breazeale accepted it but Dillian Whyte refused it and why? Why did Dillian Whyte duck Dominic Breazeale?

[kafkod]

So why should Wilder have fought Whyte other than for the money? He had absolutely nothing he wanted or nothing to prove by fighting him. It was the unified Heavyweight champion of the world Anthony Joshua at the time he sought not Dillian Whyte.

He avoided Whyte and for very good reason because he was su****ious of the offer. He knew that Dillian Whyte was only being used a buffer by Matchroom and Eddie Hearn to protect AJ from him.

You started out claiming Whyte had turned down multiple offers to fight Wilder, and now you're making excuses for Wilder and saying that he had good reasons to avoid Whyte!

Besides, in Nov of 2017; Eddie Hearn attempted to finalize a Title elimination bout between Dominic Breazeale and Dillian Whyte on the undercard of Deontay Wilder vs Bermane Stiverne II. The bout was tentatively scheduled to determine Wilder's next mandatory challenger.

Dominic Breazeale accepted it but Dillian Whyte refused it and why? Why did Dillian Whyte duck Dominic Breazeale?

Eddie Hearn tried to make a fight between Whyte and Breazeale on a PBC card? Lol .. what the **** are you smoking today?

Eddie had tried to make the fight in Cardiff a month earlier, and it was Breazeale who turned it down, not Dillian.

https://www.boxingscene.com/breazeale-offer-face-dillian-whyte-far-from-substantial--121357

"An opportunity shortly thereafter presented itself with an offer to fight Dillian Whyte (21-1, 16 KO's) on October 28th in Cardiff, Wales. Breazeale was open and ready to take on the challenge but felt as the offer was not suitable.

"I am glad everything worked out the way it did. I trust my adviser Al Haymon and I know he has my best interest at heart. That's why everyone wants to sign with him. He takes cares of his fighters," stated Breazeale."

In other words, the fight would have happened, but Haymon blocked it.

A year later, Whyte accepted a WBC order to fight Breazeale for their interim title, with the winner fighting Wilder. The WBC then changed their minds and gave Breazeale a straight shot at Wilder, without him needing to beat Dillian first.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/499112/dominic-breazeale-dillian-whyte-deontay-wilder/