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  • buddyr
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    #41
    Originally posted by BlackR0bbb
    Elaborate. Taylor boxed better this time around, but was still outworked, but like most Canelo fights, if she lands 1-2 "WOW" shots in a round, the judges are paid to give her that round. To get a fair shake, Persoon needed to drop her at least once or twice, but female boxers simply don't generate that kind of mustard on their punches.
    Exactly. Man I saw her get outworked 6-4 easily. Person was landing 4 or 5 for every 2 Taylor landed. If anyone gave Taylor the 9th it 10th round, I want to know how. Taylor would start quick fir the first 40 seconds, but then backed up and out punched the last 1:20 of the round. This happened a LOT in the 2nd half of the fight. Commentators were seriously coaching and cheering her on.

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #42
      Originally posted by Inspired
      post fight, persoon said she agreed with the scoring 'this time' and credited taylor's boxing skills.
      Apparently some on NSB are calling Persoon a liar.

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        #43
        Hmmm sounds like a case of questionable judging again. Gonna have to catch this on youtube later on tonight.

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          #44
          Taylor won that fight , the far cleaner punching , better combinations and more technical skill...Persoon came rushing arms blazing everywhere and crude in my opinion....yeah she has had a higher work rate but it was untidy and rough.
          She takes a good that Belgian woman I’ll give her that

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            #45
            Originally posted by revelated
            Apparently some on NSB are calling Persoon a liar.
            She may lie. But it would be extremely unusual and make no sense to lie and say you lost if you thought you won.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              She may lie. But it would be extremely unusual and make no sense to lie and say you lost if you thought you won.
              I don't think she lied at all.

              I think she was in that ring, she felt and saw what was going on, and she was comfortable with the fact that she simply wasn't as effective this time around. It happens - and she even said that the weight felt off this time.

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                #47
                I thought there were many rounds that were tough to score, but even though I was pulling for Persoon, I do feel that KT deserved to win a clean decision based on much cleaner punching. Persoon worked hard and did have some success but KT was sharper and and slipped punches a lot better this time. Persoon is a fair minded person and she knew she didn’t do enough this time. Credit to both women for another great effort.

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                • P to the J
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by BlackR0bbb
                  Very hard to score fights when your mind is made up with a preconceived narrative and you harbor nationalist biases. Be honest -- does Katie make it beyond Round 5 vs. Amanda Serrano? Answer when the cider buzz wears off, please.

                  1. - “Nationalist biases.”

                  I don’t recall saying that I was Irish.

                  2. - “preconceived narrative”

                  So to put it simply, I have a preconceived narrative and but you couldn’t possibly..

                  3. - “very hard to score fights....”

                  ..well you could just count the punches that actually land for both fighters and do so fairly for every round, then you’ll perhaps find it not so hard to score.


                  Hope this helps.

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                  • P to the J
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Squared.Circle
                    I agree. A lot of the punches hit fresh air, gloves, forearms and elbows. However, effective aggression is scoring criteria, and the fact that Persoon's aggression did nullify Taylor on quite a few occasions is what gave Persoon an extra couple of rounds. Let's not get carried away, it wasn't Mayweather vs. De La Hoya lol but she definitely defended enough to win. I had it 96–94 to Taylor and I think the 98–92 score was pathetic.
                    Yeah, good points made. I had it 97-93 personally but whatever.

                    On another note, I rate Taylor but she’s gonna get sparked out one day and I’ve been saying this since her 5th fight. You may have seen the flaws

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                    • Squared.Circle
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by P to the J
                      Yeah, good points made. I had it 97-93 personally but whatever.

                      On another note, I rate Taylor but she’s gonna get sparked out one day and I’ve been saying this since her 5th fight. You may have seen the flaws
                      I could have scored it 97–93 at a stretch. Some of the rounds were very close and you could just barely edge them either way.

                      The main problem with Taylor is that she jumps in face first with her flurries and then relies on her head movement and footwork to get her out (which usually works more often than not), and it leaves her too open. She also seems to be having some issues with stamina too; she looked gassed by the fifth round. You could hear her breathing heavily and almost gasping for breath in between rounds while Persoon, considering her work rate, could control her breathing a lot easier.

                      I still think Taylor beats Serrano in much more convincing fashion though. Styles make fights, and Serrano doesn't have the physical advantages that Persoon had.

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