Comments Thread For: Hearn Reacts To Arum, Warren: Fury Can't Avoid Whyte Mandatory

[Froch_uppercut]

Pure facts. Wilder would put AJ to sleep any day of the week even now.

Joshua has no chin and no powers of recovery. Wilder would shatter that glass jaw all over the ring.

Facts: I don't think that word means what you think it means lol.
The word you are looking for is "speculation".

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Facts: I don't think that word means what you think it means lol.
The word you are looking for is "speculation".

AJ ducked Wilder, that's a fact.

[champion4ever]

Whyte wasn’t ranked 1 when he challenged Wilder at first this was when AJ was trying to get Wilder himself , he didn’t get the silver belt until he defeated Helenius as well . He didn’t need to be in a mandatory spot to fight Wilder who was looking for an opponent but chose Ortiz twice over everyone in fights no one wanted .

In some type of Order .

Wilder declined 2 million to fight Briggs .

Wilder declined 12.5 million to fight AJ

Wilder declined 15 million to fight AJ

Wilder declined a Parker fight but did it intelligently where it looked like it wasn’t possible,not sure what that offer was .

Wilder declined 4/7 million to fight Whyte .

Wilder declined 120 million to fight AJ .

Wilders handlers ignored a 20 million offer from Mahkmudov wheather this could become anything is irrelevant, it shows Wilder is or was never avoided half the time Wilder fought guys who were outside the top 10 prior to fighting him so clearly offering Wilder anything is just a waste of time .

Promoters put up the money so stating Wilder couldn’t put up 7 million for a title is not how the business works . If you think you can become a unified champion your handlers make offers which the fighters team handles not the fighter . Do you really think AJ pulled out 7 million to fight Martin in 2016 ? Come on, Ha

No, you are right. Wilder could have fought Whyte anytime, he so chosen to have fought him. However, he knew that Dillian was being used by Eddie Hearn to keep him away from AJ because Joshua was afraid of being chinned by him.

Do you really believe that Al Haymon and the PBC would put up more than $7 million dollars just to pay Charles Martin for his IBF scrap because Showtime definitely wasn't going to put up that kind of bread for it.

Haymon would have a taken a huge L in pay per view sales and gate revenue for that fight. Remember that Wilder isn't as popular in the U.S or have the loyal following and fan base as Joshua does in the U.K. In order to turn that fight into a huge profit.

['b']

Only Matchroom casuals like Froch_uppercut thinks Whyte has any kind of chance against Fury.

Anyone who understands boxing knows that Fury would play with him, 12-0, with Whyte ending up in hospital after suffering a brutal beating.

Fury knows exactly how to deal with fat midgets like Shyte.

Yeah I just think for anyone who has actually watched Fury for more than 2 fights we have already 'been there, done that' with the short fat guys. Fury has no real exploitable weaknesses for the smaller guys, he can fight them at range and batter them for 12 rounds or if they want to fight in close, he can smother them and do inside work too until they tire and he'll just make them quit down the line.

[Blackstarr]

Whyte doesn't count because he was not his mandatory challenger at the time and besides he wanted undisputed with Anthony Joshua first. Dillian Whyte was used as a propaganda tool by Eddie Hearn in order to save Anthony Joshua from Deontay Wilder because he wasn't ready and afraid. Just ask Tyson Fury fans they'll tell you.

Klitschko was asked about fighting Deontay Wilder but he flatly turned him down. He was not in the least bit interested in fighting Wilder because there was not enough money in the pot to satisfy him like all the rest of the pretenders.

Those fighters including Anthony Joshua had every opportunity as Wilder did to become the WBC's World heavyweight champion but declined and Why? It's because they didn't want to get knocked out by Deontay

Which is why Wilder's name is never mentioned among them and he has to constantly face these cans who are willing to accept less money to fight him because these cowardly contenders all refuse to.

Why don't the big names in the Heavyweight division call out Deontay Wilder? Why? He wouldn't be fighting these cans if they did?

Can you give me an honest explanation why? After all, Tyson Fury did it. So why couldn't they all have done the same?

I’m beginning to get tired of your unsubstantiated lies - show us proof of all these champions/contenders declining Wilder’s offers (e.g. articles) otherwise they didn’t happen.

Here’s Finkel saying that Wilder wasn’t ready to fight Klitschko in 2015:

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-not-rushed-klitschko-says-finkel--86714

Are we now supposed to believe that Wilder’s team made him an offer that same time period before he fought his mandatory against a then unknown Fury who courageously stepped up to the plate, for what was a less high profile fight than a unification? GTFOH

Regarding Whyte, did he have to be a mandatory for Wilder to fight him? Irrespective of Hearn’s motives, why would Wilder not fight him for a career high 4-7m payday when he was busy fighting the likes of Washington and Szplika for far less? Does that sound like good business to you? If he was a pawn, should Wilder not have removed it and backed Hearn into a corner? I don’t need to ask Tyson fans anything, because I’m one of them and have followed him from the beginning, as with all nearly all recent British fighters.

Wilder had every chance to become an undisputed champion against AJ and declined. I don’t for one second believe he truly accepted that $15m offer, and even if he did, the fact he demanded 50-50 months later shows me their team weren’t negotiating seriously.

The only reason Fury was able to fight Wilder is because his team thought Fury was a can after 2 years out bingeing on drugs and alcohol, and showing up massively overweight in his 2 dreadful comeback fights against Seferi and Pianeta. However thanks to Fury, Wilder is now irrelevant and the division can look forward to a unification that never would have been possible with Wilder.

[champion4ever]

I’m beginning to get tired of your unsubstantiated lies - show us proof of all these champions/contenders declining Wilder’s offers (e.g. articles) otherwise they didn’t happen.

Here’s Finkel saying that Wilder wasn’t ready to fight Klitschko in 2015:

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-not-rushed-klitschko-says-finkel--86714

Are we now supposed to believe that Wilder’s team made him an offer that same time period before he fought his mandatory against a then unknown Fury who courageously stepped up to the plate, for what was a less high profile fight than a unification? GTFOH

Regarding Whyte, did he have to be a mandatory for Wilder to fight him? Irrespective of Hearn’s motives, why would Wilder not fight him for a career high 4-7m payday when he was busy fighting the likes of Washington and Szplika for far less? Does that sound like good business to you? If he was a pawn, should Wilder not have removed it and backed Hearn into a corner? I don’t need to ask Tyson fans anything, because I’m one of them and have followed him from the beginning, as with all nearly all recent British fighters.

Wilder had every chance to become an undisputed champion against AJ and declined. I don’t for one second believe he truly accepted that $15m offer, and even if he did, the fact he demanded 50-50 months later shows me their team weren’t negotiating seriously.

The only reason Fury was able to fight Wilder is because his team thought Fury was a can after 2 years out bingeing on drugs and alcohol, and showing up massively overweight in his 2 dreadful comeback fights against Seferi and Pianeta. However thanks to Fury, Wilder is now irrelevant and the division can look forward to a unification that never would have been possible with Wilder.

I never said that offers were made by Team Wilder to fight him. He was the champion. The offers should have made by his potential opponents to fight him but none seem to show any interest whatsoever and that's including Wladimir Klitschko.

Also, Wilder is not into these pitty pat games being played by Eddie Hearn. Wilder was more than happy to oblige Dillian Whyte in fighting him.

All he asked was for Anthony Joshua's name be on the same contract as his next mandatory opponent each time for the undisputed championship of the world. He needed it in writing because he doesn't trust Eddie Hearn.

However, both times Whyte and Matchroom Sport refused to do it. I wonder what were they afraid of; Dillian Whyte losing?

Wilder offered Joshua $50 million and Joshua counter offered with a $15 mil offer which Deontay accepted. However, Joshua reneged on the offer. So when the next round of talks came around, Wilder rightfully demanded a 50/50 purse split as punishment for Joshua pulling out of their original deal.

Lastly, Fury was a fight that Wilder neither wanted or needed. He only took it on the rebound because he couldn't secure the Joshua fight. He wanted to give the fans a fight that they wanted to see. That fight was a gift to us.

As far as Wilder being irrelevant; I wouldn't be so quick to count him out just yet. Remember that the Lord works in mysterious ways.

This pandemic has given Wilder some much needed rest and extra time to fully heal and recover from the injuries he sustained in the rematch.

By the time the trilogy rolls around in February it would have been nearly a full year since that bout and he should be at full strength by then.

In addition, no I don't believe that lightning strikes twice. You will be looking at the new and two time WBC heavyweight champion come February 2021.

[Laligalaliga]

Top 2 guys need to fight each other next. That should be the only priority and goal.

Other options involving lower guys should never delay the big fights from happening.

The only one who wants the big fights delayed is Eddie hearn, so AJ can keep his paper belts a bit longer.

Take your mandatory out of the way and do the big fight. Is that too difficult to achieve?

[Fighter78]

Eddie being too nice here.....If Fury gives up that belt there should be NO NEGOTIATIONS FOR A JOSHUA PAYDAY....BOTTOM LINE!....You gotta make that British Bi+@# man up because he's weak by nature.

[Blackstarr]

I never said that offers were made by Team Wilder to fight him. He was the champion. The offers should have made by his potential opponents to fight him but none seem to show any interest whatsoever and that's including Wladimir Klitschko.

Also, Wilder is not into these pitty pat games being played by Eddie Hearn. Wilder was more than happy to oblige Dillian Whyte in fighting him.

All he asked was for Anthony Joshua's name be on the same contract as his next mandatory opponent each time for the undisputed championship of the world. He needed it in writing because he doesn't trust Eddie Hearn.

However, both times Whyte and Matchroom Sport refused to do it. I wonder what were they afraid of; Dillian Whyte losing?

Wilder offered Joshua $50 million and Joshua counter offered with a $15 mil offer which Deontay accepted. However, Joshua reneged on the offer. So when the next round of talks came around, Wilder rightfully demanded a 50/50 purse split as punishment for Joshua pulling out of their original deal.

Lastly, Fury was a fight that Wilder neither wanted or needed. He only took it on the rebound because he couldn't secure the Joshua fight. He wanted to give the fans a fight that they wanted to see. That fight was a gift to us.

As far as Wilder being irrelevant; I wouldn't be so quick to count him out just yet. Remember that the Lord works in mysterious ways.

This pandemic has given Wilder some much needed rest and extra time to fully heal and recover from the injuries he sustained in the rematch.

By the time the trilogy rolls around in February it would have been nearly a full year since that bout and he should be at full strength by then.

In addition, no I don't believe that lightning strikes twice. You will be looking at the new and two time WBC heavyweight champion come February 2021.

Total nonsense. It’s for the lead promoter, which is invariably that of the champion, to make offers because they’re the ones with the TV dates and big money behind them who will own the promotion. Do you see contenders offering terms to Canelo, AJ or Pacquiao? If you’re calling Wilder’s management amateurs with no financial clout that need to be waited upon, then so be it - it would explain why an Olympic medalist heavyweight with God-given power was an unknown in his own country and earning nothing until AJ and Fury came along.

And why should fighting Whyte for a career high payday and great exposure have been contingent on fighting AJ, when he was beating on bums with no strings attached?

Also, quit with the amnesia - nobody was calling for that Fury fight, even Fury fans who fought the fight was too soon for him, hence the poor PPV numbers both in the US and the UK. This was nothing more than a cherry pick gone wrong, because it turns out a 50% Fury was good enough to do the job.

Nothing wrong with having blind hope in your guy - there are no certainties in boxing so let’s wait and see the outcome of this largely unwanted third fight.

[Monzon99]

Get the fuck outta here. I admit that it is very bold to insert yourself in a middle of a negotiation when all the smoke has been cleared. When Wilder was free AJ didn't want shit to do with him.

However, the moment that Wilder starting chasing Tyson Fury for an immediate rematch his cowardly ass resurfaces. Where was Joshua back in June, July and August of 2018 when Deontay Wilder was open, available and ready to fight him in the U.K for a flat fee with no guarantee purse?

The fight would have happened and been easily made at DAZN had AJ signed where Wilder's name was and Wilder would have signed where Anthony Joshua's name was or if it was a flat 50/50 split.

You're just too dim to realize wilder finkel and haymon were faking the whole time. you are easily deceived and fooled because you're a fool. wilder was just a rigged fake pretender, rigged by haymon finkel and sulaiman to be a fake KO machine. But despite 40 fake wins he never convinced the public to pay big money to see. Wilder was a bad actor and a lousy no talent fraud. He talked a big game but when he had his chances to dare to be great vs AJ he lied like a bi7ch and ducked the fight to fight haymon patsies instead.